You’re enlightened! So why are you still on this forum?

[Shin]

Joseph, you're the perfect definition of a spiritual ego.

You've convinced yourself that you are conscious, but your mind has completely taken over you.

The delusion is so perfect that you actually believe you've awoken, when it couldn't be further from the truth.

You use double standards and backward realizations all the time to win arguments against those who dare to doubt your claims.

Let go of the pride and look directly into this pile of shit you're in,

I know it doesn't feel good, but if you don't do it you may stay stuck the rest of your life.

The people you are fooling are the people who needs your help, but you can't help from a position of self deception.

So suck it up, let go of pride, and be honest about yourself,

For once.

 

[ajasatya]

5 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I will stop teaching for a while.  Thanks.  Those who I have reached know what I have taught them.  I don't need to keep hammering away.  I have been at it for a while and I think that means I can stop for a while too.  There's a threshold where even good intentions becomes neurotic, and I think I've gone over that line.  My eagerness to share my growth can easily turn neurotic.  But I don't need to teach anyone.  If I do it out of good will and I get feedback that says it's harmful, then I'll be the first to pull away.  I have many other things to do with my time.

it's alright. take your time.

remember that growth is also about healing. it's impossible to teach well without a soft heart. words of wisdom feel friendly, not confronting.

[Shin]

5 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

What about you?  I could say the same about you, but unlike you, I have a heart.  I learned some things about you too that are not very flattering.

See what you're doing here ?

Why are you fighting back at me ?

What is hurt ?

Why does it do it ?

 

I don't care what people think of me, but is it true for you ?

Apparently not.

 

You sure you're enlightened

Are you ? For real ?

Or is it a way to escape your real peoblems ?

Edited March 19, 2019 by Shin

[ajasatya]

Just now, Joseph Maynor said:

It's impossible?  Says who?

What is that which says it's impossible?

experience...

[Amun]

2 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

It's impossible?  Says who?
 

What is that which says it's impossible?

Who are you to judge my heart?

Brother, the fact that you are defending suggests you have something you want to protect badly, and i can tell you what that thing is; it's your opinion of yourself. Take our word for it, we look from outside, you look from within. We can see certain things about yourself that you are unable to see and vice versa. 

[cetus]

Good day everyone! I see we have a "Hot Topic" and again for all the wrong reasons.

[tsuki]

Let's just settle on that Joseph is deliberately doing this to teach us how we ourselves evade self reflection, okay?
How utterly blind we are to the fact that we're deceiving ourselves and that we can't be reasoned out of it.
This thread is a perfect bait for us, spiritual egos.

Edited March 19, 2019 by tsuki

[ajasatya]

1 minute ago, cetus56 said:

Good day everyone! I see we have a "Hot Topic" and again for all the wrong reasons.

i just had this insight that this is actually a good thread. struggles and triggers are powerful vehicles for growth, if faced properly. it's a chance for the actualized.org community to grow!

[ajasatya]

1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Yeah, when you get to be right.  It feels good huh?  Don't get used to it, it's fleeting.

nah, i don't care that much about being right anymore. it doesn't feed me. realizing my own flaws feed me.

[cetus]

Well good morning Joseph. What's new with you? 

[noselfnofun]

28 minutes ago, Shin said:

Joseph, you're the perfect definition of a spiritual ego.

You've convinced yourself that you are conscious, but your mind has completely taken over you.

The delusion is so perfect that you actually believe you've awoken, when it couldn't be further from the truth.

You use double standards and backward realizations all the time to win arguments against those who dare to doubt your claims.

Let go of the pride and look directly into this pile of shit you're in,

I know it doesn't feel good, but if you don't do it you may stay stuck the rest of your life.

The people you are fooling are the people who needs your help, but you can't help from a position of self deception.

So suck it up, let go of pride, and be honest about yourself,

For once.

 

How do you know this based on forum posts, surely you would have to know him personally and actually spend time in his presence to start making judgements like that. 

[cetus]

@Joseph Maynor Every day should start with a good laugh. Thanks!

[WelcometoReality]

Jesus bent down and wrote with his finger on the ground. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "Let anyone among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her." And once again he bent down and wrote on the ground.

[Shin]

5 minutes ago, noselfnofun said:

How do you know this based on forum posts, surely you would have to know him personally and actually spend time in his presence to start making judgements like that. 

Of course I can't be sure.

He just looks like a lot like it from all the posts I've read in 2 years + his blog, that's enough for me to care and be concerned.

[Shin]

1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Just stop it dude already.  Stop it.  Can you stop it?  

I will when you'll stop deceiving yourself, or when I'll think you're a lost case.

[FoxFoxFox]

As someone who made fun of a moderator a few days ago, i feel silly that i say this today (I was an idiot then and i apologized to them) but, if everyone just stopped defending their perspective, and instead acknowledge that there is in fact such a thing as a perspective, and that every perspective is an enlightened one, then we could all be friends again:

 

[zambize]

35 minutes ago, FoxFoxFox said:

As someone who made fun of a moderator a few days ago, i feel silly that i say this today (I was an idiot then and i apologized to them) but, if everyone just stopped defending their perspective, and instead acknowledge that there is in fact such a thing as a perspective, and that every perspective is an enlightened one, then we could all be friends again:

 

That's awesome you apologized, an apology can go a long way for both sides 

[CreamCat]

8 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

 

What is your assessment of emerald's embodiment of important concepts of personal development?

I follow Leo Gura and TJ Reeves because I regard them as more advanced learners. TJ Reeves said he would love a man who rapes his mom and Leo Gura is at least conceptually very advanced. TJ Reeves seems like the real shit. He is extremely fit, and he knows how to make money.

[CreamCat]

8 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I consider Emerald a teacher of mine.  

I think you have your good reasons. It was difficult for me to take her seriously because she and I seem to be in the same league in terms of neuroticism level. It wasn't difficult to make her angry although I didn't intend to make her angry. I have an average level of neuroticism. Leo and TJ have very low levels of neuroticism. I mean Leo is a fucking robot. I think a low level of neuroticism means one achieved a higher level of emotional mastery.

Edited March 19, 2019 by CreamCat

[CreamCat]

1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Emerald is on another level.

What do you mean by another level? It can mean anything if you don't define it.