If everything else is an illusion, why does Leo make videos?

[now is forever]

5 minutes ago, Shaun said:

I'm inspecting them. Every day. It was Leo that said that nothing exists though. I could find the video. Or are you saying that Leo is me and I am him so technically I did say that nothing exists whatsoever?

and what did you find out? are they nothing? 

did you say they are nothing? are they?

[Shaun]

1 minute ago, now is forever said:

and what did you find out? are they nothing? 

did you say they are nothing? are they?

I'm not enlightened yet, so I can't know for sure myself, but I trust Leo a lot and I don't think he would lie to us.

[now is forever]

3 minutes ago, Shaun said:

I'm not enlightened yet, so I can't know for sure myself, but I trust Leo a lot and I don't think he would lie to us.

does that mean you are not lying to yourself?

in what do you belief shaun?

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[Shaun]

Well no, not if what Leo says is true.

[now is forever]

4 minutes ago, Shaun said:

Well no, not if what Leo says is true.

then who is saying what’s true? and who is saying what’s not? and what is the measurement for it?

you really need to find that out.

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[Shin]

4 minutes ago, Shaun said:

Well no, not if what Leo says is true.

About what ?

[Shaun]

10 minutes ago, now is forever said:

then who is saying what’s true? and who is saying what’s not? and what is the measurement for it?

you really need to find that out.

One day I hope to. I will just keep going with the meditation and give the mental masturbation and conceptualization a rest for a while as it is doing me no good.

[now is forever]

@Shaun ? 

you‘ll figure it out!

[Nahm]

Why Leo makes videos is a distraction.

 

Same beliefs = same experience / suffering. 

Below All the beliefs = pure happiness / truth

The wild awesome thing is because it’s just beliefs, it totally up to you. They could all be examined and all be realized as just beliefs in a few days of writing thoughts and feelings about yourself and others, and examining them -

- asking if it is really true. 

- rephrase beliefs about others as about you, and asking if that is really True.

- have a good cry

- have a good laugh

This is freeing the mind, and the feelings, and ultimately is self realization.

 

its kinda simple , without any beliefs, what’s left is the truth  

@Shaun

[Shaun]

Ok then, when I ask myself if I exist, I do in a sense but all there is to my experience is the knowing of it. Now whether or not the other people I perceive around me are having their own experience or they are just made of consciousness experiencing itself or they are just projections of my mind and I am all that there is (solipsism), is unknown to me at this stage. 

[now is forever]

@Shaun so it’s true isn’t it? you are conciousnes experiencing itself all by itself? you are all there is!

[Shaun]

3 hours ago, now is forever said:

@Shaun so it’s true isn’t it? you are conciousnes experiencing itself all by itself? you are all there is!

So what are you then? Just a figment of my imagination? You are not having an experience of your own? And another thing, if Teotl or consciousness was such a smart trickster pretending it isn't god, I would never have seen any spiritual awakening videos and would be living life as normal not even considering this stuff. 

[Shin]

46 minutes ago, Shaun said:

And another thing, if Teotl or consciousness was such a smart trickster pretending it isn't god, I would never have seen any spiritual awakening videos and would be living life as normal not even considering this stuff. 

That would be a limitation.

[Shaun]

So are the teachers who say that consciousness takes the form of everything including all 7.5 billion of our finite minds wrong?

[Shin]

7 minutes ago, Shaun said:

So are the teachers who say that consciousness takes the form of everything including all 7.5 billion of our finite minds wrong?

 

Is that a limitation ?

[Shaun]

2 minutes ago, Shin said:

 

Is that a limitation ?

It appears to be from my perspective because if it wasn't limiting itself in some way, in the form of all things I would be aware of the experience of every single living thing in the universe, I would be the godhead itself in its unlimited form.

[Shin]

Just now, Shaun said:

It appears to be from my perspective because if it wasn't limiting itself in some way, in the form of all things I would be aware of the experience of every single living thing in the universe, I would be the godhead itself in its unlimited form.

But that's a limitation.

If God couldn't experience itself through every sentient being thinking it is separate from every other, it wouldn't be infinite.

It is doing both, and everything you can think + everything you can't think of,

And also not.

[Shaun]

2 minutes ago, Shin said:

But that's a limitation.

If God couldn't experience itself through every sentient being thinking it is separate from every other, it wouldn't be infinite.

It is doing both, and everything you can think + everything you can't think of,

And also not.

12 minutes ago, Shin said:

 

Is that a limitation ?

Hey, just as long as my family are real in some way, it's all good. Otherwise might as well be dead.

 

Another thought I have entertained is that due to how truly infinite the possibilities are, that must mean that Game of Thrones actually really happened?

[Shin]

Just now, Shaun said:

Hey, just as long as my family are real in some way, it's all good. Otherwise might as well be dead.

 

Another thought I have entertained is that due to how truly infinite the possibilities are, that must mean that Game of Thrones actually really happened?

Depends what is your definition of real is.

Is your last night dream real to you ?

[Shaun]

It is a real dream because it happened but it is different in that it takes place inside an already limited self thus is it subject to the limitations of my brain (which leo says doesn't exist) and as such the imagery and events are unstable and poor quality. Just like a computer game never looks as fluid and real as this reality we supposedly share because it takes place inside a processor that is subject to the limitations of matter.