The ego doesn't exist

[Highest]

I wrote on my topic '' The ego is a concept'' that when I became aware that the ego is God the sense of ego or' 'I' ' was completely gone, non-existent. Only God was left, there was Only God. This lasted for about 8-10 sec and then I came back to my ordinary awareness and concluded that the ego must be God because I just became aware that only God is. 

But Preetom said something in that topic which made me aware that my experience actually means that the ego or I or Me doesn't exist at all. It's just a concept or thought, it doesn't really exist in reality, only God does. It's Only God and whatever is and isn't is God. 

But there is something (I don't know what but probably maya as described by the great upanishads) that conceals the Truth that only God is and that you are God. This thing or no-thing must be seen through and transcended in order to become conscious that there has always been only God and that the ego never really existed or was real in the first place. It was only God all the time eternally. 

[Joseph Maynor]

God is a concept.  The Ego is not a concept, it's a mechanism.  God doesn't exist.  The Ego does.  It's odd that you have these things backwards.  

Edited March 17, 2019 by Joseph Maynor

[Highest]

3 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

God is a concept.  The Ego is not a concept, it's a mechanism.  God doesn't exist.  The Ego does.  It's odd that you have these things backwards.  

It's incredible that you have these things backwards. You simply have never been conscious and aware of God. 

But we can agree to disagree ?

[Joseph Maynor]

1 minute ago, Highest said:

It's incredible that you have these things backwards. You simply have never been conscious and aware of God. 

But we can agree to disagree ?

I've been religious in the past.  I'm fully aware of the delusion of belief in God.  I also went through the God Stage on the Enlightenment Path as well.  Been there, done that.

Edited March 17, 2019 by Joseph Maynor

[Shadowraix]

10 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

God is a concept.  The Ego is not a concept, it's a mechanism.  God doesn't exist.  The Ego does.  It's odd that you have these things backwards.  

Both are conceptual labels to try to point to something you can directly experience. 

Look at your hand. That is not a hand.

[Highest]

1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I've been religious in the past.  I'm fully aware of the delusion of belief in God.  I also went through the God Stage on the Enlightenment Path as well.  Been there, done that.

Fuck religion and your God Stage. Have you actually become conscious of God and instantly known that It was God?

[Joseph Maynor]

1 minute ago, Highest said:

Fuck religion and your God Stage. Have you actually become conscious of God and instantly known that It was God?

Ooh, your illusory conceptual Ego just got triggered.

Edited March 17, 2019 by Joseph Maynor

[cetus]

4 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I'm fully aware of the delusion of belief in God.

But what if by saying God you were just referring to everything exactly as it is - Totality?

[Joseph Maynor]

1 minute ago, cetus56 said:

But what if by saying God you were just referring to everything exactly as it is - Totality?

As long as that's not clung to as a metaphysical belief, I can accept that, but I wouldn't want to label it as anything but being.  God has too much meaning in it, so I think it's a word that seduces the conceptual mind to cling to all kinds of concepts, beliefs, and metaphysical notions that lead one astray from being, so I avoid the word "God".

Edited March 17, 2019 by Joseph Maynor

[Highest]

1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Ooh, your illusory Ego just got triggered

I will take that as no. 

 

9 minutes ago, cetus56 said:

It came random and I cant take it away lol

[Shin]

Just now, Joseph Maynor said:

As long as that's not clung to as a metaphysical belief I can accept that, but I wouldn't want to label it as anything but being.

Why the being label is fine but not God ?

[Highest]

4 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

As long as that's not clung to as a metaphysical belief, I can accept that, but I wouldn't want to label it as anything but being.  God has too much meaning in it, so I think it's a word that seduces the conceptual mind to cling to all kinds of concepts, beliefs, and metaphysical notions that lead one astray from being, so I avoid the word "God".

God is not a metaphysical belief, it's something one can experience and become conscious of. Watch Leo's video what is God and his other videos about God. 

[Joseph Maynor]

9 minutes ago, Shin said:

Why the being label is fine but not God ?

Because being is more cognitively neutral and therefore more suitable for use as a pointer. The best thing to call it would be "pointer" actually.  No conceptual content, just "pointer".  It's that cognitive content of the concept that screws everything up in somebody who falls into that trap.  But to use the word God is just asking for that to happen.  It's like putting a delicious slice of pizza in front of someone trying to diet.

Edited March 17, 2019 by Joseph Maynor

[cetus]

@Joseph Maynor I could say the word being to me points to a kind of "soul".

[Joseph Maynor]

5 minutes ago, cetus56 said:

@Joseph Maynor I could say the word being to me points to a kind of "soul".

It's weird, I have no need to put being into any concepts.  It's just what's there when there is no Mind trying to label things.  I could call it "blah" or anything and it would change it.  In fact that would just be talk or the Mind imposing itself on it.  

Edited March 18, 2019 by Joseph Maynor

[cetus]

@Joseph Maynor  Big Booty works fine for me.

[Joseph Maynor]

2 minutes ago, cetus56 said:

@Joseph Maynor  Big Booty works fine for me.

That could be a new Zen Koan.

What is God?  Big booty.

Edited March 18, 2019 by Joseph Maynor

[Highest]

Just now, Joseph Maynor said:

It's weird, I have no need to put being into any concepts.  It's just what's there when there is no Mind trying to label things.

7 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Yes true, but are you aware or conscious then that being is God and that It is you and everything? I will tip a no answer given your previous posts.

[Joseph Maynor]

11 minutes ago, Highest said:

Yes true, but are you aware or conscious then that being is God and that It is you and everything? I will tip a no answer given your previous posts.

What is it that clings to being being this or that?

[Highest]

1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:

What is it that clings to being being this or that?

I'm not saying that. I'm saying that being or awareness IS already God. God can only be felt, made aware of or conscious of because God is ultimately formless.