What is a healthy ego?

[Joseph Maynor]

4 hours ago, mandyjw said:

I don't know if I've never seen a spiritual teacher give that much air time to negativity and judgement on other people's spiritual paths. 

Can you please elaborate?  I don't know where you came to this conclusion and why.  This is certainly not my impression.

Edited March 9, 2019 by Joseph Maynor

[mandyjw]

@Joseph Maynor Having been raised as a conservative Christian listening to it checks too many of those red flag boxes I'm so familiar with from organized religion. 

1. Look at all these examples of people who fail.

2. These particular people are not worth spending time with. They are dangerous to your own spiritual growth. There is no light in them. 

 

[Joseph Maynor]

1 hour ago, mandyjw said:

@Joseph Maynor Having been raised as a conservative Christian listening to it checks too many of those red flag boxes I'm so familiar with from organized religion. 

1. Look at all these examples of people who fail.

2. These particular people are not worth spending time with. They are dangerous to your own spiritual growth. There is no light in them. 

 

Ah, I get it.  Mooji is speaking from the perspective of someone who has transcended the Ego-Mind.  This is a very advanced video.

[BjarkeT]

One that sees reality clearly as it is and isn't delusional. 

"How can i have a healthy ego?"

Train your self to accept the truth no matter how emotionally difficult it is.

Be willing to accept you can be wrong as well.

I think a healthy ego is a process and not something that is done one time so be willing to accept change as well.

I think this describes the process you must have to have a healthy ego:

“Our view of reality is like a map with which to negotiate the terrain of life. If the map is true and accurate, we will generally know where we are, and if we have decided where we want to go, we will generally know how to get there. If the map is false and inaccurate, we generally will be lost. While this is obvious, it is something that most people to a greater or lesser degree choose to ignore. They ignore it because our route to reality is not easy. First of all, we are not born with maps; we have to make them, and the making requires effort. The more effort we make to appreciate and perceive reality, the larger and more accurate our maps will be. But many do not want to make this effort. Some stop making it by the end of adolescence. Their maps are small and sketchy, their views of the world narrow and misleading. By the end of middle age most people have given up the effort. They feel certain that their maps are complete and their Weltanschauung is correct (indeed, even sacrosanct), and they are no longer interested in new information. It is as if they are tired. Only a relative and fortunate few continue until the moment of death exploring the mystery of reality, ever enlarging and refining and redefining their understanding of the world and what is true.” Scott peck.

Edited March 9, 2019 by BjarkeT

[iTommy]

Do the things that your future self would thank you for. 

Things like...

• meditation
• yoga/physical exercise
• working on your life purpose
• being radically self-honest
• practice self-love & acceptance, receiving love, giving love (even to people that you dislike)
• try to be mindful as much as possible, be the witness of your experience (this doesn't mean that you don't care about stuff or don't engage) 
• work on your relationships
• look into a healthy diet
• read books, and/or listen to audiobooks (maybe even replace music with audiobooks at times)
• practice surrendering to what is happening within your experience. "Most things are easy, thinking makes them hard."
• develop good morning & night routines
• take full responsibility for your life and suffering
• learn how to influence your subconscious, to create the life that you desire. Like visualizations, affirmations, subliminals, binaurals etc.

 

Useful questions to ask yourself when you're about to procrastinate or similar are... "Would my future-self feel good about my plans to not do that task? Would my future-self be happy/proud of my current self if I did this thing that I keep putting off? How would my future-self that I am envisioning, handle this situation? How would my future & my future-self look and feel like if I kept putting things off? (This one is mainly using negative-motivation, this might not be good long-term, yet short-term when you're generally low on motivation, it can be useful to get you going".

Try to visualize your future, your future-self, see and feel it.

 

 

[mandyjw]

59 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Ah, I get it.  Mooji is speaking from the perspective of someone who has transcended the Ego-Mind.  This is a very advanced video.

Just be careful, it's really easy to bring the ego in the back door after pronouncing "It's gone forever!". I try to keep mine out in the light and keep an eye on it at all times.  

 

[Joseph Maynor]

2 minutes ago, mandyjw said:

Just be careful, it's really easy to bring the ego in the back door after pronouncing "It's gone forever!". I try to keep mine out in the light and keep an eye on it at all times.

The Ego is always gonna be there.  Transcending the Ego doesn't mean getting rid of the Ego, it means not being a slave to the Ego, it means seeing through the Ego.  When you see what the Ego is clearly it won't have the power to trap you as much.  That's why Mooji is talking about avoiding Spiritual Egos because they are a bad influence in this regard.

Edited March 9, 2019 by Joseph Maynor

[mandyjw]

@Joseph Maynor He wouldn't be warning others of spiritual egos if he didn't also have one. Most people can spot a spiritual ego in someone else a mile away but are blind to their own. If you see and make a negative judgement in someone it is also present in you. The opposite is true, if you see light or love in someone it is also present in you. Eckhart Tolle talks about the spiritual ego but he does it in a way that makes the whole dilemma seem amusing or funny. He doesn't make judgements about people who condemn them with saying things like there is "no light" in them. There are ways to point things out without making a superior you and an other. I think that Mooji fell into that trap there. 

 

[mandyjw]

@Joseph Maynor What better way to see through the ego than to observe without judgement and have compassion for the ego in one's own self and in others? What you demonize grows stronger. 

[Joseph Maynor]

6 minutes ago, mandyjw said:

@Joseph Maynor What better way to see through the ego than to observe without judgement and have compassion for the ego in one's own self and in others? What you demonize grows stronger. 

I don't think Mooji is talking about demonizing.  He's just saying you have a choice about whose company you keep. 

[enderx7]

@theking00  haha well yes the ego is the devil but god is also the devil and the devil deserves love in gods eyes. The devil can thus realize it is god but thats probably not going to be relevant now. Building a healthy ego is like a canoe you need it to cross the river but once you've crossed the river you don't need it any more. So make it as healthy and least devilish as you can and pursue what is true until one day you cross the river and it will drop on its own. Pursuing truth on its own will make the ego bit by bit less dense and devilish but a unweildly unhealthy ego will have great difficulty pursuing truth.

[Truth Addict]

On 10/03/2019 at 2:00 AM, mandyjw said:

@Joseph Maynor What better way to see through the ego than to observe without judgement and have compassion for the ego in one's own self and in others? What you demonize grows stronger. 

A better way is self-love.

It's a practice, you can close your eyes or look in the mirror and say: "I love you", "I accept you", "I love everything about you, all the mistakes, all the rights and wrongs, everything", etc...

It is one of the most powerful ways for creating self-esteem and achievement in life.

Observing the ego passively is good, but actively loving it is great!

Edited March 11, 2019 by Truth Addict

[Hellspeed]

First, find out what EGO is. Is not what most people think it is. In other words EGO is strictly your finite view of yourself and surroundings. 

So by definition a fixed idea of the universe is not healthy. 

[WelcometoReality]

On 2019-03-08 at 11:27 PM, theking00 said:

How can I have a healthy ego ?

A healthy ego is more coherent and well functioning in the world than an unhealthy ego. This is where personal development comes in if that is what you want.

On 2019-03-09 at 11:34 AM, Highest said:

An ego who is aware and conscious of God. An ego that understands that the ‘’I’’ (ego) is itself God because God is Everything and nothing can be apart from God. Everything is included, that includes all illusions like the ego as well.

How can an illusion be aware of anything?

[FoxFoxFox]

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What is a healthy ego?

One that you don't believe yourself to be. 

[abrakamowse]

On 3/9/2019 at 6:26 AM, theking00 said:

So the ego is not evil? Leo said that the ego is the devil.

Everything we say it's not right or completely right. We want to label things, but we don't really know it directly.

The idea of the ego being a devil can be helpful for some, not so much for others. That idea points to the fact that we are not the ego, and thinking we are an ego is what brings wars, fights and confusion.

Saying that the devil is the ego is a finger pointing to the moon, not the actual moon.

:-)