If we are all one...

[Nahm]

@Faceless ??

@Truth Addict The dream and machine terminology was as much a play on the op as it is true or not true (lighten up ☺️). No one can tell you what you are, we can only help you with what you are not. When you are what you are, then we are not. You were just dreaming us.

[abrakamowse]

Hi everyone! I am just reading. Very interesting thread.

[now is forever]

15 minutes ago, Nahm said:

@Faceless ??

@Truth Addict The dream and machine terminology was as much a play on the op as it is true or not true (lighten up ☺️). No one can tell you what you are, we can only help you with what you are not. When you are what you are, then we are not. You were just dreaming us.

yes paul is just an alien

[Truth Addict]

2 hours ago, Shin said:

No you don't ?

 

Said the ego.

(The quote above is a technical mistake.) 

@Nahm @now is forever I'm starting to lose you guys!

 

[Nahm]

@Truth Addict Impossible! We’re you too.

[Forestluv]

1 hour ago, now is forever said:

so there are many different layers of reality in a big city and on top of that you have the dream machine.

but underneath the dream machine is that what is real in a city, so if paul would be interested to see the dream machine and the city, paul would go maybe to see both... but therefore paul needs to explore the city first, maybe paul even is not so interested in the big big dream machine but more in the tiny ones. his friends would maybe live in brooklyn and that’s where he would start - but then manhattan and central park are also very interesting. maybe he would just fall right into the city out of the dream into the dream, inbetween just a yoga mat.

Ahhh nice.

Does the dream character Paul wake up? Or does the higher consciousness thatvis dreaming of Paul wake up?

As long as Paul is immersed in his character and playing Paul, there will not be awakening because there is the underlying assumption that he and his world is real.

Imagine Paul goes seeking for enlightenment. He spends his days in libraries reading, in meditation centers and yoga studios. He listens to nonduality speakers on youtube. Yet, he just can’t seem to wake himself up. . . That’s because he is immersed within the dream and trying to wake up himself, Paul. Yet Paul is a dream character within the dream. A dream character doesn’t wake up. The higher consciousness wakes up and realizes it’s a dream (in this analogy the person who is dreaming of Paul).

Similarly, one’s “real life” character cannot wake up to the dream as long as that character is immersed and identified as being that character. It’s a similiar dynamic, just a conscious level higher.

[now is forever]

@Serotoninluv i guess you need to ask paul if he is awake then!

[oMarcos]

if we realize we are the dream machine, then we can choose our dream, is that the ultimate goal, to be nothing and everything?

[Forestluv]

2 minutes ago, oMarcos said:

if we realize we are the dream machine, then we can choose our dream, is that the ultimate goal, to be nothing and everything?

That is an amazing exploration. I'd relax the second part about an ultimate goal.

[oMarcos]

2 minutes ago, Serotoninluv said:

That is an amazing exploration. I'd relax the second part about an ultimate goal.

im relaxed :3 just excited

[Forestluv]

2 hours ago, oMarcos said:

im relaxed :3 just excited

Curiosity and exploration is so exciting ?? 

[now is forever]

i like this one as a graphic very much!@oMarcos

paul would be just a pointer. (or a christmas tree).

so in any dream machine the questions is: what’s the dot.

Edited February 13, 2019 by now is forever

[now is forever]

15 hours ago, non_nothing said:

it might be useful to watch the episode of the Leo talking about two soda cans (pepsi cola) explaining differences and similarities. If someone remembers that episode, It would be helpful if  s/he shares the link

so i wonder if there are many bubbles in a soda can, what happens if the content of one bubble melts with another bubble. but in one bubble there might be more co2 and in the other there might be more o2.

or what would happen if from square one all the bubbles in a soda can would contain only o2? or are there vacuum bubbles? bubbles that vacuumate the the whole soda?

Edited February 13, 2019 by now is forever

[who chit]

4 hours ago, now is forever said:

so i wonder if there are many bubbles in a soda can, what happens if the content of one bubble melts with another bubble. but in one bubble there might be more co2 and in the other there might be more o2.

or what would happen if from square one all the bubbles in a soda can would contain only o2? or are there vacuum bubbles? bubbles that vacuumate the the whole soda?

One may be just co2 bubble. Another may be more o2 bubble than co2 bubble. And another may be vacuum bubble,but regardless of content they are all bubble.  

[now is forever]

2 hours ago, who chit said:

One may be just co2 bubble. Another may be more o2 bubble than co2 bubble. And another may be vacuum bubble,but regardless of content they are all bubble.  

yes moma bubbles differently than times square said peter. but what if times square would bubble moma?

[Highest]

The experiences are different, but not the experiencer which perceives them. Ultimately, it's all the non-dual Total One taking all forms, all experiences, all human beings, all objects, all perceptions. Only Consciousness exists, only Consciousness is the doer. Only consciousness, being fully non-dual conscious, will reveal that there is only It. All this (reality) is this It. Taking the from of reality, being itself formless. Existent, self-aware, conscious. 

[oMarcos]

20 hours ago, now is forever said:

"so in any dream machine the questions is: what’s the dot."

@now is forever beautiful...

Edited February 13, 2019 by oMarcos