Pramit

The idea of doing good in the world

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I don't agree that I have to feel remorse  for the suffering of others, or the suffering I inflict on others. Hear me out. I do feel remorse and I will never hurt another being knowingly. But there is no rational argument for it, even if you are a buddhist. Lets say you are going to be reborn as the person who suffererd under you. So what? I will curse myself and die? That's all it amounts to. With time the pain will pass, with death the memory will vanish. The only reason I feel remose is because of my ability to put myself in that situation and have my brain tell me "oh that's not what I want to feel". But that "want" is wrong, desire is wrong, clinging is wrong. You cannot desire to not suffer. Also, the one doing the suffering is not outside the system. If you believe that you are somehow an alien that can make others suffer, you are wrong. Everything you do is intentional. Even if the world kills you right now, its an intentional act that you do on yourself. So why feel guilt for doing something to yourself?

Also, another point that Alan Watts raises is that too often we believe that "doing what we want to do" is something new. That no one else in the history of the universe thought to himself "I can do whatever I want with no consequences". I am sure there are kings that actually could and did do whatever they wanted. And where are they now? Who are they now? What happened to all their actions, their lives, their memories? All returned to dust. Only I exist now. And in another reality only you will exist. 


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Meditation is like polishing a brick to make a mirror. Philosophy is like a net to catch water. The buddah did not meditate. It's just how he sits. 

- Alan Watts 

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Its all relative.

Thats why any justification for anything only matters to the degree that you care about it.

We don't do things because we have to.

We do it because we want to or don't want something.

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It sounds like you're having guilt trips. Forget about the "wrong" and the "right", if opportunity ever arises, you will know what to do. I reassure you that. 

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@Pramit Yes you are right. There is absolute no reason why being awful and horrible would mean anything. It doesnt matter, it is needed to sustain the whole. 

The reason more conscious people become magnets of goodness and try to contribute to the universe is because:

-THey see that hating and hurting the world, is hurting themselves. All they do is inflict suffering onto themselves. 

-They see that being awful brings you nothing but awfulness in your own life. Who would do that consciously?

-They understand if they want to be loved, they themselves need to love. They need to create love in their life, so that their environment starts loving them

-The only time there is even a need to inflict suffering is when there is ego. And ego is delusion. Inflicting suffering is an active thing, becoming truthful eliminates the need to do anything of that sort. There is simply no motivation


I know you're tired but come. This is the way - Rumi

 

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