if i said.

[Aakash]

if i said its the very fact that you are aware, that is enlightenment. what would you say to me? 

[Aakash]

 

[Forestluv]

17 minutes ago, Aakash said:

if i said its the very fact that you are aware, that is enlightenment. what would you say to me? 

I would ask “who is it that desires attention and a response?”

[Shin]

1 minute ago, Serotoninluv said:

I would ask “who is it that desires attention and a response?”

???

[Aakash]

 @Serotoninluv  LOOOL! sorry, i'm still in aha phase

i'm not a sage! whos humble yet! 

Edited February 8, 2019 by Aakash

[TheAvatarState]

@Aakash one would have to understand  the full ramifications of what it means to be aware. Perhaps that could lead to an enlightenment experience. 

[Forestluv]

@Aakash I’m just playin’ with ya ? 

[Aakash]

@TheAvatarState so you are implying, that its okay to fragment it into facets, rather than one thing 

see i feel that the facets are by human standards 

love because we have defined what it is to love ,

happiness because we defined happiness 

i think i have discovered that bringing about the qualities of love and happiness on spantaneousness without any conditions is utterly difficult. to genuinely be these things. 

thats fair enough, but am i still not awareness itself, if i have not discovered the full ramifications and explored? 

 

[Aakash]

@Serotoninluv ahaha it was defo a good one , i was actually looking for some questions to answer, i'm raring to go, to get better at asking questions! 

[TheAvatarState]

4 minutes ago, Aakash said:

so you are implying, that its okay to fragment it into facets, rather than one thing 

How did I imply that? 

16 minutes ago, Aakash said:

thats fair enough, but am i still not awareness itself, if i have not discovered the full ramifications and explored? 

Everything you've ever seen in your life is pure awareness/consciousness itself. I'm saying that a possible path to enlightenment is to self-inquiry into the nature of awareness, like Rupert Spira says. Almost no one talks about the full ramifications of the fact of you having this experience of awareness. It defies logic. It's mystical. It's a self-referential mindfuck. Dive into that, and great things await. 

[Aakash]

@TheAvatarState sorry i misinterpreted, damn dualism. 

6 minutes ago, TheAvatarState said:

full ramifications of the fact of you having this experience of awareness.

definately. i'm contemplating right now what an enlightened master is, i think its a person that has realised and then has dived deeply as you've said 

thats able to bring on spantenously the emotion of love and happiness, have you had experiences of being able to do this?  

someone who has studied all the pitfalls and traps.

Edited February 9, 2019 by Aakash

[Bobby]

yes.

it's not about knowing something new but knowing that you already know, or dissolving what thinks it doesn't know

Edited February 9, 2019 by Bobby

[TheAvatarState]

5 hours ago, Aakash said:

thats able to bring on spantenously the emotion of love and happiness,

That's something different. Emotional mastery is a practice, love is something you create. As far as I know, this is separate from enlightenment, but enlightenment certainly doesn't hurt!

[Joseph Maynor]

I would say that's a pretty good pointer.  But there's a danger that it can be misinterpreted too.

Edited February 9, 2019 by Joseph Maynor