Peace of Mind

[How to be wise]

The solution to cancer is not to fight it or deal with it, but to see that it isn’t real.

 

[How to be wise]

Physical pain doesn’t occur in the body. It occurs in the mind.

 

[How to be wise]

 

[Tistepiste]

@How to be wise

6 hours ago, How to be wise said:

Physical pain doesn’t occur in the body. It occurs in the mind.

 

Not sure about this. So you're saying when you put your hand in boiled water and don't think about the pain you won't have pain?

[How to be wise]

@Tistepiste It’s not really ‘thinking about it,’ in my experience. The subconscious mind does a lot of thinking without you being conscious of it. When you put your hand in boiling water, the physical pain you feel is either remembered (the past) or anticipated (the future). If your (subconscious) mind is very still, you will feel no pain.

[Good-boy]

Nice enlightening videos ?.

On a side note Katie is getting old and wrinkly ?

[How to be wise]

@Good-boy happens to us all my friend.

[How to be wise]

 

[Tistepiste]

@How to be wise sounds a bit naive to me to be honest.

So you're saying if it can't be remembered or anticipated you wouldn't feel pain?

So if you throw boiling water on a baby they wouldn't feel pain? 

 

It doesn't make sense to me because in that logic, if pain can only be felt if it is remembered, if has to be manifested once. What about the first time you felt pain? You didn't have any memory about what it would feel like, so why did you feel anything at all?

Edited February 5, 2019 by Tistepiste

[How to be wise]

@Tistepiste who said that babies feel the pain. Of course they don’t. They cry and scream, but we project our beliefs onto the crying and screaming, hence we believe that they feel pain. As evidence, can you remember ever feeling pain as a baby. You couldn’t even remember when you were a baby, because your mind did not yet create ‘reality.’ As a baby, you were living in nothingness. Your body screaming and crying is separate, because those were reflexes of the body. The body cried on its own without you existing.

As for when you manifested pain, it was the first time you believed it. You heard from your parents, tv, society, that people feel pain, and you believed it. That’s why today you ‘feel’ pain. You believe that you are supposed to feel pain when something strikes you, and hence you anticipate or remember it. 

Quite radical, I know. But look at the potential this gives you. If you fix your mind, physical pain ceases to be a problem. 

[Tistepiste]

@How to be wise Okay, good points.

So pain receptors don't exist?

And why does "pain" exist at all than?
At the very beginning, why did "pain" introduce itself then? It has to come from somewhere right, this root, on which the memory is based and anticipated

Edited February 5, 2019 by Tistepiste

[luckieluuke]

@How to be wise Do animals feel pain? afterall that is what we name the "mechanism" that makes them not jump into icy water or run away from forest fire. It is something that tells them it is not good, something they don´t want to experience. If they don´t feel pain that´s great news to the meat industry!
Similarly if a child touches a flame it experience something that tells them not to do that again. How do they experience this negative thing that pushes evolution forward in a non painful way?
You say how do we know a child experiences pain, well how do you know it doesn´t?
 

[Tistepiste]

@luckieluuke Exactly this. And studies have shown that animals do feel pain.
 

 

[How to be wise]

8 hours ago, Tistepiste said:

So pain receptors don't exist?

Of course not. Notice that you do not have direct experience of a pain receptor, nor have you had in the past. It only exists as a concept in your mind. 

8 hours ago, Tistepiste said:

@How to be wise And why does "pain" exist at all than?
At the very beginning, why did "pain" introduce itself then? It has to come from somewhere right, this root, on which the memory is based and anticipated

Well, who knows. What we do know, though, is that somebody early on in human evolution believed that pain is real, and has spread that belief across human society. Without such a concept, no pain. 

Of course, this doesn’t mean that your body will not scream or cry. These are sometimes just reflexes of the body, independent of you.

[How to be wise]

8 hours ago, luckieluuke said:

@How to be wise Do animals feel pain? afterall that is what we name the "mechanism" that makes them not jump into icy water or run away from forest fire. It is something that tells them it is not good, something they don´t want to experience. If they don´t feel pain that´s great news to the meat industry!

When animals scream or run, these are reflexes of the body. The body is doing it on its own. That there is some soul inside the tiger that is feeling pain is a belief, and fortunately, the tiger doesn’t hold that belief. You do.

It also means that, when you witness pigs screaming in a slaughter factory, the only people feeling pain in that moment are the humans, not the pigs. The pig’s body just has a reflex of screaming. It means nothing about the pig itself.

[How to be wise]

8 hours ago, luckieluuke said:

Similarly if a child touches a flame it experience something that tells them not to do that again. How do they experience this negative thing that pushes evolution forward in a non painful way?

Again, this is a reflex of the body. It doesn’t say that somebody is ‘feeling’ pain.

8 hours ago, luckieluuke said:

You say how do we know a child experiences pain, well how do you know it doesn´t?

Good question. Notice that, without the belief that the child is experiencing pain, there is nothingness. Without the belief that the child is not experiencing pain, you have another thought saying that he is feeling pain. And that thought causes your pain! Undo that thought. Without thought, how can anything be true. The only thing that is true is the void where no thoughts reside.

[How to be wise]

 

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[nistake]

Pretty good videos, thanks for posting them!

[luckieluuke]

@How to be wise I see what you´re getting at. And maybe in an enlightened position this is true, I dont know. But most of us are not enlightened and I feel there is much danger in that idea, in fact one of the most insane and dangerous idea´s iv´e heard in a while:

Because then why bother killing animals before slaughter? why not start carving into them and take what you want when they are alive? That would be a great way to keep meat fresh. You just carve out the meat that isnt needed like limbs and cheeks but be careful not to let the animal die. That way you always get fresh meat by keeping it alive as long as possible.
Or why not create a animal that only has fat and no limbs or mouth, you can inject food into one big blob of flesh - no problem It´s all ok with the animal after all.

As long as we think it´s ok it´s ok?

 

Edited February 6, 2019 by luckieluuke