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52 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Being is higher than watching.  Watching is still a clinging.

@Joseph Maynor  But it is a stage , the watching tecnique is more a allowing , because the purpose is allowing what is true to manifest. without you trying to control 

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Indeed. Control/manipulation is the doing. A movement of resistance/attachment/identification. An act of concentrated attention. 

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@rounder Okay , thank you , but why are you trying to help me ? And show where is my clinging ?

@nado The thing is that only you can tell if you are doing wrong , and the watching practice is the most simple practice , but really difficult . Read something by Osho on the witness . You can find it in his site . or just google ''witness , watching , osho'' .

 

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2 hours ago, Ecocotton said:

@Leo Gura I am thankful for all Your videos. I have two questions that have come up while watching your videos. 

Can you expand a little more about what you mean that every moment is eternal. Is every moment like frozen in time and our awareness is going from snapshot to snapshot? 

I'm not sure this can be explained, you really have to just wake up.

Time is a conceptual projection, something you are imagining. You were indoctrinated into believing in time as a child. If you can recall, clocks made no sense until you were indoctrinated to believe in them. Since time is just an imaginary idea, in point of fact, you can become conscious that this moment, and every moment is eternal. Which means it has existed FOREVER! Imagine that reality is one giant solid block of stuff all occurring simultaneously and it has existed forever. This very moment has been here for over 100 trillion trillion trillion years. But you're not conscious of it because your mind is preoccupied with relative survival. Your mind filters out the eternal truth of the present moment because it is irrelevant to your survival. All your mind cares about is differences between moments, not the truth of the actual present moment. Because survival is a relative activity. All you care about is time relative to your imagined birth and death. You care about what time lunch is so you can fill your belly with food and live another day. It does not matter to your mind that that food has existed for eternity. It also doesn't matter to your mind that that food is a hallucination. Since your life is also a hallucination, you feed off of hallucinations.

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When you say everything is a miracle, do you mean because out of an infinity of possibilities this is what happened? Can you expand a little more of what you mean with it's a miracle? Why is it a miracle? 

Just look around you. It's pure magic. You're just so jaded and so preoccupied with surviving to live another day -- to get your personal needs met -- to notice the radiant, divine, intelligent, beauty of being.

This cannot be understood until you awaken. Perhaps go look at a sunset and you'll feel a tiny fraction of it.

Or better yet, take a psychedelic, since you're so disconnected from being, you are like a zombie. The psychedelic will bring you back to life (at least for a little while).


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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There can be no watching without the freedom of being. As THE NOW/BEING there is watching/choicless observation of arising and falling subject/object activity. 

Watching is without premeditation, complete awareness of the present without preference, effort, or compulsion, control(a doing). 

Awareness/Being rests as itself and watches Subject/Object movement arise and fall, until total silence/no-thing-ness...But watching depends on being and being depends on watching. But doing is of subject/object activity. 

THE NOW/BEING-AWARENESS and what is watched/observed is all one totality. Not actually distinct. 

 

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If one used watching as a concesssion to achieve or move to “higher stage” that premeditated action(doing) had its root in subject/object activity, therefore is a watching distorted by control/effort. 

That is a different type of watching. 

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11 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I used the words higher stage to simply point out that being is not watching. 

Fosho. 

 

11 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Being has no argument -- it doesn't modify any further concept.  

I feel ya dude..

Choiceless observation/watching too doesn’t modify any further concept. Both are of and as unpremeditated awareness. Pure Consciousness. 

Yet the arising and falling manifestations too have there root in THE NOW. Again one totality. 

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49 minutes ago, tecladocasio said:

 

@nado The thing is that only you can tell if you are doing wrong , and the watching practice is the most simple practice , but really difficult . Read something by Osho on the witness . You can find it in his site . or just google ''witness , watching , osho'' .

 

@tecladocasio When I read your criticism I was hoping you had something concrete and potent to share. I'll have a look at Osho's site some more, but I didn't see anything obvious yet. Thanks for the pointer.

If ever I get to share your perspective on actualized.org I'll take Buddha's advice, leave the proverbial raft behind and move on to the next thing.

For now I'm happy to live in the days of the Internet and grateful for these forums connecting us all across the planet. It sure beats our ancestors riding a donkey for months to meet a single person!

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@Joseph Maynor its not about ideas, philosophy, concepts or anything of that nature. It’s purly about self observation/direct perception not tainted by subject/object phenomenon..When we speak here on the forum it will manifest as such. But what I am referring to does not have it’s essence in that of thought. 

 

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Just now, Joseph Maynor said:

Yeah but see Ego-Minds run on the rails of concepts and philosophy.  That's like the language of the Ego-Mind.  To being, concepts and philosophy sounds like a squeeling baby sitting right behind you on an airplane.

Fosho. I agree 

That is also implied in choiceless observation. :)

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@Joseph Maynor what you are referring to is the same thing that I was speaking of. Your term being is the equivalent of my term choiceless observation/watching. 

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Gotta remember it all comes off as philosophy, concepts when communicating with words. 

It’s up to us to see the difference and understand what’s being pointed at. The description is not the described right. 

Its one thing to communicate a particular branch of knowledge/thought, and another when simply trying to communicate the actuality of something being limited to concepts and such. 

I mean for the most part all writing on here can be interpreted as philosophical, conceptualization, etc. 

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Just now, Joseph Maynor said:

Yeah but some people get really caught up in the philosophy and then turn this stuff into philosophy basically.

I understand. It’s difficult to find a balance in communication indeed. 

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By the way, I got a new hammock to hang. :)

going to install it now. Appreciate your posts dude?

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3 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Not just in communication, in big-picture too, and in thinking.  We urge because we believe and we believe because we're clinging to thoughts.

Indeed. That again is what I mean by choicelessly observing that movement :)

night man?

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8 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

But once you know what being is, what's the point to cling to thoughts about it? 

Exactly, you don’t see the image. 

 

8 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

It's like trying to take the experience of seeing the Parthenon for the first time and trying to put that experience into words.  Yeah, you can put the experience into words, but the experience of seeing the Parthenon for the first time doesn't require you to put it into words at all -- it's whole and complete as it is.  Being is the same way.  Being doesn't ask that you pen a philosophy of being.

Fosho. But if i am trying to explain how I see being and choicless observation the same I need to use thought to relay that to you or another. Using thought, not letting it use us?

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If god is eternal and all this has been occurring infinitely.. why are we stuck at the stage that we are... don’t you think that god would have figured out the pointlessness of experience and ceased its operation. 

I understand it’s a game for itself, but why not just be the absolute truth all the time and skip this stage of dualities.. 

what your basically saying is that this is heaven on earth and when we die, we return to source.. which is nothingness.. which is also everything at the same time.. 

is it cos nothingness couldn’t exist without something to exist from?

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1 hour ago, BetweenTwo said:

why not just be the absolute truth all the time and skip this stage of dualities.

The stages of duality ARE the Absolute Truth. You keep making dualities unwittingly, thus creating all these confusing questions for yourself.

Before you ask any question, first ask yourself, does my question assume a duality? If so, collapse it and see if any question remains.

For example: "Is God dead or alive?" Oh, yeah... that's a duality.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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