I stumbled on a paradox in human evolution

[Eric Tarpall]

I don't know if this falls under philosophy but it's something I'm curious about. In order to make metal tools you need metal tools. So how were the first metal tools made? You need a furnace for making these tools. But furnaces are made out of metal. 

[Leo Gura]

Soft metals like copper, tin, or lead can be easily refined via natural means. The first furnaces were made out of stone or clay.

 

[TheAvatarState]

This is a really cool YT channel, you should check out his other videos.

 

[Eric Tarpall]

57 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Soft metals like copper, tin, or lead can be easily refined via natural means. The first furnaces were made out of stone or clay.

 

Aah that explains it. I would assume that stone melts quicker than metal but maybe not.

[now is forever]

@Eric Tarpall why should stone melt under heat? stone is not glass while glass  is stone. you even eat from baked stone plates with a melted sugar/glass glaze that was baked in an oven. that’s basically it or did you think you’re plate melted into being?

[Leo Gura]

Take a stone outside your house and try to melt it in your oven.

[ajasatya]

3 minutes ago, now is forever said:

@Eric Tarpall why should stone melt under heat? stone is not glass while glass  is stone. you even eat from baked stone plates with a melted sugar/glass glaze that was baked in an oven. that’s basically it or did you think you’re plate melted into being?

oh c'mon. why bash the guy? nobody has the same intuitions/experience on how physics work.

[now is forever]

@ajasatya because he believes in the law of unattraction. i‘m just playing to his rules.

[Eric Tarpall]

13 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Take a stone outside your house and try to melt it in your oven.

You would probably need an industrial oven for that.

10 minutes ago, now is forever said:

he believes in the law of unattraction.

No I said I don't believe in law of attraction. I don't know what law of unattraction is.

If law of attraction was real then every man would have a harem of pornstars.

Edited January 31, 2019 by Eric Tarpall

[RichardY]

Quicklime can be highly explosive. If melted from limestone. Mercury is obviously liquid at rtp.

Chicken and the Egg. Ontology.

[now is forever]

@RichardY why does this read itself like a horoscope 

[RichardY]

@now is forever Was thinking more alchemy.

[now is forever]

@RichardY what is it else? 

but liquid mercury at room temperature sounded like horoscope/prediction

Edited January 31, 2019 by now is forever

[RichardY]

@now is forever Yes I suppose I did not have to add that. Thinking of time plays havoc with cognition, but what else is there to do? Tend to think more of the fortune cookies. Horoscope ("time observer" never really thought of it like that).

[Rilles]

Whats the point of this thread

[TheAvatarState]

7 hours ago, Eric Tarpall said:

No I said I don't believe in law of attraction. I don't know what law of unattraction is.

If law of attraction was real then every man would have a harem of pornstars.

That is not at all evidence for or against the law of attraction. Lol.

[thesmileyone]

LOA works but not in a way that gives you "a harem of pornstars". That's objectivity thinking and LOA doesn't work like that.

[Leo Gura]

You know what a melted rock is called?

Lava

Granite has a melting point of: 2,219–2,300 °F

[Eric Tarpall]

12 hours ago, TheAvatarState said:

That is not at all evidence for or against the law of attraction. Lol.

I know but it's a good argument.

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Granite has a melting point of: 2,219–2,300 °F

That's odd. I've seen buildings burn down and the bricks don't turn into lava. They just fall apart. But bricks are not pure stone I think.

Edited February 1, 2019 by Eric Tarpall

[TheAvatarState]

@Eric Tarpall notice what you're doing here.