Anyone else think this is a bad idea?

[Tom T]

I am tempted to read this book called “the multi orgasmic man” it’s basically all about how to orgasm without ejaculateing. My reasons for this is becuase I want to stop watching porn and I always feel depleted and lethargic after fapping. I’m not a fan of no fap and I think this is a better way to do it. I feel this practice could enhance my life and spiritual practice if I taught my self how to orgasm the tantric way BUT I do have a daily Kriya yoga practice. Do people think doing these two practices daily could fuck you up? Let me know your thoughts if anyone has any experiance or knowledge on this   

[Tom T]

Also has anyone here had a tantric orgasm before ?? If so how effective did you find it for raising consciousness ??

[Jordan94]

Why do you think it could fuck you up ?

[Tom T]

I’m not sure, doing kriya yoga and also having a powerful tantric masterbation session daily might get in the way of my kriya practice and mess it up?? 

[Tom T]

On the other hand it would most likely make my kriya practice more powerful if it’s fine to do 

[Salvijus]

Interesting. Are you a fan of Mantak chia's work? I like him myself. It would be something totally different if i get a girlfriend then his techneques would be golden treasure for me

22 hours ago, Tom T said:

My reasons for this is becuase I want to stop watching porn and I always feel depleted and lethargic after fapping.

If book doesn't work there's one more way that I'm aware of to stop fapping. It's shambhavi kriya from sadhguru. It worked for me at least.

Edited January 30, 2019 by Salvijus

[Elisabeth]

I think TRYING is fine ... so do it at another time of the day, and just start slow?

I don't have much experience with either practice (I've kinda dabbled into both), but I think there's a chance that they are in the same direction. 

[Psychonaut]

What is a tantric orgasm according to the book?

 

[Tom T]

@Salvijus no iv never researched his work before I just came across his book a month or two ago. Haven’t read it yet it looks good tho !!! And yess that sounds interring I’m going to follow up on that shambhavi kriya by sadguru thank you very much man !!! Do you personally really Feel the diffrent from transmitting your sexual energy?

 

@Elisabeth and yes that’s what I was thinking that you for the advice 

 

@Psychonaut I haven’t read the book yet and to be honest I have no idea. I just presumed it is a tantric technique. 

[Salvijus]

40 minutes ago, Tom T said:

@Salvijus no iv never researched his work before I just came across his book a month or two ago. Haven’t read it yet it looks good tho !!! And yess that sounds interring I’m going to follow up on that shambhavi kriya by sadguru thank you very much man !!! Do you personally really Feel the diffrent from transmitting your sexual energy?

No honestly i don't feel very different. i've read that there are many benefits of doing no fap but I think most of it is just imagination. I feel like a normal guy except I don't feel horny all the time. Which feels good and liberating in a big way. I'm not completly beyond it. But the difference is huge. Also i have more energy of course because masturbation drains a lot of energy.

All in all. i feal great. But I prescribed all the benefits like having more energy and feeling great to shambhavi mahamudra kriya. I don't know how much retaining semen contributed to feeling the way I feel right now

Edited January 31, 2019 by Salvijus

[Salvijus]

42 minutes ago, Tom T said:

Do you personally really Feel the diffrent from transmitting your sexual energy?

Also I shambhavi mahamudra kriya is not like in tao. It's just a simple kriya which somehow has this effect of naturally stopping the compulsive masturbation. I don't know if it's a sexual energy transformation or it is something else. But I know it works only

In tao they do something different i think. I'm not the expert here. They play with their orgasms and transform their sexual energies somehow. 

[Tom T]

@Salvijus that’s awesome !!! How long did it take to get to that state? And looking up that yoga now. There seems to be diffrent variations of it. Are they all basically the same? And is this technique specifically for stopping you waste sexual energy to become more conscious do you personally find that it just dose that for you? Is it common for many people to stop feeling hornet after doing this kriya? 

[Tom T]

@John Lula I know. Porn corrupts the mind !!! I actually just naturally stopped watching it in October  and November but recently iv been sucked back into it. I think I just need to naturally transcend it with deep long term spiritual practice instead of trying  to go cold turkey tho. 

[Salvijus]

11 hours ago, Tom T said:

@Salvijus that’s awesome !!! How long did it take to get to that state? And looking up that yoga now. There seems to be diffrent variations of it. Are they all basically the same? And is this technique specifically for stopping you waste sexual energy to become more conscious do you personally find that it just dose that for you? Is it common for many people to stop feeling hornet after doing this kriya? 

Well it started like this. When I started doing this kriya I realized I went a 1week without masturbating I thought okey interesting. Then I went 2 weeks without masturbating then I went 1month and after that it was it I went for 4months and I personaly thought this is it. That was the last time in my life. I thought I will go until I die without masturbating because that's how it felt the neediness and hornyness was absolutely absent. I was confident I won't masturbate again in my life. Then I stopped doing shambhavi for 3-4days because i had problems with heart and bam. I masturbated again.  

11 hours ago, Tom T said:

And is this technique specifically for stopping you waste sexual energy to become more conscious do you personally find that it just dose that for you? Is it common for many people to stop feeling hornet after doing this kriya? 

 

And don't know it is specifically designed to stop it. I think the way it works is it changes your chemistry. Thoughts are a consiquences of your chemistry. If your chemistry is blissfulness then thoughts on masturbating become impossible. They just won't come to you. Usually people want to masturbate to release stress or when they're depressed. Shambhavi removes all the stress, takes away depression and produces a blissful chemistry inside. With all this thoughts about masturbating don't even occur at all. But when you're depressed, stressout and the very chemistry is high jacked by your hormones that's it.

11 hours ago, Tom T said:

Is it common for many people to stop feeling hornet after doing this kriya? 

I'm not sure. But it's common to feel very happy and alive witch is probably what is the reason behind nofap. I think maybe the kriya also balances the harmone activity, i think it is written in the discribtion as one of the benefits. This could also explain this phenomena.

11 hours ago, Tom T said:

There seems to be diffrent variations of it. Are they all basically the same?

The kriya I'm talking about is shambhavi mahamudra from Inner Engineering program

[sneha]

@Salvijus has your libido gone down completely too after practicing the kriya? 

[Leo Gura]

Go for it.

[Parththakkar12]

I'm a guy and I had an imploding orgasm just a few days ago. The best orgasm ever!! Your level of energy will increase because of those. (as opposed to the exploding orgasm which is usual for men. The exploding one takes away your energy.) The lesser resistance you have to them, the more likely you are to attract someone who's also able to surrender to it.

I don't do it everyday. It's more of a once a month thing for me cuz I don't really know when it'll happen! It's more of something you surrender to when it happens.

Edited December 11, 2019 by Parththakkar12

[Spiral Wizard]

@Tom T This synchronicity is hilarious...

[TrynaBeTurquoise]

2 minutes ago, modmyth said:

@Parththakkar12  This is such an interesting subject. I've been exploring the female version of this for a while.  Like, mostly I have read that women don't lose energy through orgasm, but from it's really variable, from experience. It might be an issue with ejaculation and fluid loss in general.

I wonder what it would be like to have sex with a guy who comes like that, like what that would feel like on an energetic level.

You tryna find out or what? lol

@Tom T I've tried this. It takes a lot of effort to do it. You really gotta concentrate on squeezing the pelvic floor muscles and have to use your finger to put pressure if you can't do it yet by just squeezing. The orgasm is intensified in one aspect but partially made worse by trying so hard to control, but this could just be a learning curve. I felt less depleted afterward. One time I did it and had a good workout a few hours later, something that I wouldn't have done probably if I just let it go. I didn't quite feel multi-orgasmic, I felt like once I held it in I lost most of my interest in sex, but again could just be conditioning of the default habits and adjusting to something new. 

[Shin]

Do it.