The #1 reason why religion didn't work

[Truth Addict]

I don't want to seem arrogant. It's just an insight that hit me while I was playing video games today, which were completely irrelevant.

My mind was all over the place, and I was watching it.

I thought: it's really nice to know all that I know, how can I share my insights with others?

I thought: Hell! Not possible. I could spend a lifetime explaining to someone and they won't ever understand what my insights are.

And the reason that is, is because wisdom can't be taught, it has to be earned. Otherwise, it'll be turned into dogma, and that's exactly what happened with religion.

And that's what Leo does not want to happen with his teachings, because that'll turn them into ideology.

It's really that simple. I don't know if there's a better way to fix this issue, and I know I didn't discover anything new.

But, that's how insights work, you don't know until you know. 

[Forestluv]

Thanks for sharing these insights with us. I enjoyed reading and contemplating them ? 

[Aakash]

 the map is not the territory; so anything ideologically created in the map i.e you should follow enlightenment to be happy is false ideology, but great insight! 

[Truth Addict]

@Serotoninluv you're welcome. And yes that's exactly my point: every concept has to be contemplated. 

@Aakash there's a fine distinction here: the map is just an assumption, it has to be verified by experience.

Enlightenment is not a great insight until you start to experience it. Before that, it was just a belief that was either taken dogmatically or with an open mind. And that's what matters here.

[Shadowraix]

Definitely! I've had this insight too. 

Glad to see you have! 

Concepts are pointers but you'll never get it until you know where in your direct experience it leads to. Many people don't follow the pointers. 

[RichardY]

Reinvent the wheel?

[Nahm]

@Serotoninluv So sly.  ?

[Forestluv]

@Nahm Turquoise ninja ??‍?

[Truth Addict]

@Shadowraix yeah, I also have had that pointer insight recently during self-inquiry.

@RichardY I don't know man. It seems more complicated than that. Most essentially, you need to get people out of their little perspectives and teach them about open-mindedness (which I assume was called "faith"). Also, other people are on it, and it's not of my concerns. And after all, maybe that's how it's supposed to work: an enlightened leader to lead unconscious people.

@Nahm a devilish comment passed with minimal damage, why wake the devil up? Lol, wait. I just did that too ?

@Serotoninluv I will find you, and I will hug you ? ?

Edited January 27, 2019 by Truth Addict

[RichardY]

And the reason that is, is because wisdom can't be taught, it has to be earned. Otherwise, it'll be turned into dogma, and that's exactly what happened with religion.

@Truth Addict Yeah could be onto something there. Although you can always instruct people. Which does not have to come with any ideology or Dogma. Dance or driving a car for instance.

I don't think that open-mindedness is the equivalent of faith. Plenty of things are taken on belief, a step further would then be to infer their implications and work from the inference and not the belief.

An enlightened leader. Plenty of times people have been lead by someone or rather by their ego and are not enlightened. I suppose Buddhism may offer a path to crush the EGO down, allow the self or rather 'no self' to takeover which is more powerful.

[Joseph Maynor]

Religion is the Ego-Mind clinging to Metaphysics.

[Truth Addict]

@RichardY let's focus on the main topic here, which is religion.

What is religion's aim basically?

Ego death, Truth, enlightenment, etc... So, any other activity is not religion-related.

The other points you suggested can be valid, it's a matter of perspective.

@Joseph Maynor thank you for the correction, but you understood what I meant.

Edited January 27, 2019 by Truth Addict

[Leo Gura]

@Truth Addict Yup

Imagine trying to teach someone who hasn't ever existed what existence is. How would you go about doing that? They'd never believe you.

[Truth Addict]

@Leo Gura I think I'd have to start with destroying the illusion, but that wouldn't be enough, because the mind is an illusion-creating-machine, therefore I'd have to teach them somehow how to stop the illusion or at least detach from it.

I also need to find their motives, and find a way to encourage them to die.

Of course, I must, first of all, not be deluded.

It seems easy on paper, but the Devil is always a sneaky bastard! And it will be much harder to convince others to abandon their comfy illusions, because I already know how hard it is to fight my own devilry.

Edited January 27, 2019 by Truth Addict

[Leo Gura]

10 minutes ago, Truth Addict said:

I already know how hard it is to fight my own devilry.

Fighting devilry is just more devilry.

Instead, put your energy into conscious observation of your devilry.

[Truth Addict]

@Leo Gura sure thing, thank you for everything Leo