Why coffe is bad?

[ShaharA]

@outlandish Take into account the economic interests for funding some of the researches and hiding the others. Especially when we are talking about the food and beverages industries (billions of dollars) and the social norm that coffee "is ok" and not like alcohol. I read about all the famous benefits of coffee but also about the downsides of it + my own experience. I suggest you make serious research about the other side also and try some higher doses of coffee to see what it does to your body, then decide for yourself.

[outlandish]

@ShaharA which of the studies that I linked to has questionable research? If you check out Dr. Greger's site, pretty much all of the health benefits I've posted about are backed up by what he reports on coffee, and he is a guy who is super diligent and sensitive to industry biased research.

I *have* made serious research about the other side, this is why I continue to post this position on here. In fact, 7 years ago I was a lot like you and began phasing out coffee in my life because I had a puritanical idea about needing to not have the chronic habit. However, when I really dug into it, it became obvious that the anti coffee side didn't really have anything to back it up, and that there are little to no negative long term health consequences associated with moderate coffee drinking. On the contrary there are piles of benefits as shown by legitimate medical research.

On top of that, I realized that I really enjoy drinking coffee, and that the idea that coffee is "bad" really comes down to a puritanical outlook with no basis in reality.

I've gone from long periods of no coffee or tea, up to 5 cups a day, and back down again many times, so I'm well aware of how it affects my system. I've now settled on drinking 2 cups a day all before noon. Sometimes I just have one, sometimes 3 if life gets in the way of sleep and I need to push through.

Of course if a person doesn't like how it feels in their body, or mind, it's their prerogative to decide not to drink it. But it's puritanical to tell people that they shouldn't drink coffee, because counter intuitively it's good for you, it's not hard to quit - much easier than alcohol or tobacco for example - and many people thrive on having that extra push in their system.

[ShaharA]

@outlandish Thank you for your sharing. I guess I'll have to find out in the next few months what it does to my body. 

By the way, did you find anything interesting regarding coffee and calcium absorption in your research? I couldn't really find some reliable sources about that- Please share with me about that only if you had serious research about that specifically.

[outlandish]

Seems like there's conflicting research on the calcium thing, so it's probably inconclusive at this point.

A single datapoint doesn't say anything generally, but I've had a bone scan done and I have very good bone density, so I'm not personally concerned about calcium at this point.

[iamnotahumanbeing]

Thanks @pluto .

Can anyone report on how quitting coffee has affected their meditation or other spiritual practices?

I have two strong shots of coffee per day, and would say am relatively easily effected by coffee. 

Thank you for your suggestions on alternate drinks to use to ween off.

[Outer]

The problem I have with everyday coffee consumption is that you develop tolerance. So drinking the same amount, it will become less useful. I don't know how many days are enough to not develop a tolerance, but at least a day or two in between administration. Since I rarely use caffeine a cup of green tea is enough to make me feel the coffee high.

[pluto]

@iamnotahumanbeing S.C.A.T

Sugar, Caffeine, Alcohol, Tobacco

These are the worst for consciousness work and meditation because they numb our natural abilities/senses and only stimulate the Monkey-Mind further. If i do these often i become an egomaniac thus why i do not because it goes against my true nature and i end up suffering greatly.

All legal drugs but psychedelics(the opposite effect) remain illegal.

Its always been a war on consciousness not on drugs themselves.

 

[Moreira]

1 hour ago, pluto said:

@iamnotahumanbeing S.C.A.T

Sugar, Caffeine, Alcohol, Tobacco

These are the worst for consciousness work and meditation because they numb our natural abilities/senses and only stimulate the Monkey-Mind further. If i do these often i become an egomaniac thus why i do not because it goes against my true nature and i end up suffering greatly.

All legal drugs but psychedelics(the opposite effect) remain illegal.

Its always been a war on consciousness not on drugs themselves.

 

youre right

[PamelaWhite]

Studies and Researchers found that people who drink coffee regularly may have an 11% lower risk of developing type 2 diabetes than non-drinkers and the ingredients in coffee that can affect levels of hormones involved in metabolism. People who drank several cups a day actually had a lower risk of stroke. Heart experts say the benefits may come from coffee’s effect on the blood vessels. And by keeping vessels flexible and healthy, it may reduce the risk of atherosclerosis, which can cause heart attacks.