JevinR

How To Build A Masterplan To Become A Yogi

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So I'm 19, I've figured that authentic happiness is to simply sit and be, how sneaky and manipulative marketers are in showing what your life "should be". My family wants me to get married, but that is bullshit. I asked for the truth, and got it, now to become a yogi is really all there is left, but again I need some plan to become a yogi, to jump out of this bullshit. Enlightenment > Life Purpose. Really, I don't know wtf I'm going to do, everything is a scam. In May I will be in college soon, only half way through the life purpose course and I know it's not worth it because everything is a sham, and now I'm stuck. Literally, for hours on end all I feel like doing is nothing at all, to just sit and be. To go meditate beside a tree or on a rock or wear some robes and put a bindi on my head and just go ohmmmmm. Seriously wtf is this shit.

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2 hours ago, JevinR said:

So I'm 19, I've figured that authentic happiness is to simply sit and be, how sneaky and manipulative marketers are in showing what your life "should be". My family wants me to get married, but that is bullshit. I asked for the truth, and got it, now to become a yogi is really all there is left, but again I need some plan to become a yogi, to jump out of this bullshit. Enlightenment > Life Purpose. Really, I don't know wtf I'm going to do, everything is a scam. In May I will be in college soon, only half way through the life purpose course and I know it's not worth it because everything is a sham, and now I'm stuck. Literally, for hours on end all I feel like doing is nothing at all, to just sit and be. To go meditate beside a tree or on a rock or wear some robes and put a bindi on my head and just go ohmmmmm. Seriously wtf is this shit.

What truth did you get?  apparently it wasnt life changing, or even gave you a direction to focus your energy in.  Why is it that you want to become a yogi?   what is it about being a yogi that appeals to you?  Why not just find your real self and be that?

 

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There are two type of truths, the in-ward truth, those the the ones that are feelings and logic. And then there is the outward truth. Which is when you see truth only on the outside. 

If you got the innward truth, no wonder you are still online speaking out truth and enlightment. If you really have been given truth, you would leave this shit forever. Point made and be clear about it. But what i'm trying to tell you is this.... if you really are 19, and really about to go to college, build a very strong routine! This will aboslutly help you, doing nothing at 19 is way to bad, i did it myself, it does not work! Start building a very strong routine! Especially if you have so much time, just get used to it! You will look back and wonder why you didn't follow my advice, the universe is trying to tell you something, you found a falsehood! And idea that is still incompletely, for something to be perfect, it would have to be incomplete. So keep looking 

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@JevinR

All I can tell you is:

Do you remember when you were 13? You were not the same as now, Am I right?

Well, life never stops doing that.

So your intentions of today might become something you'll remember and really laugh at tomorrow. And this never stops. Never!

 

I'm an experience collector. Instead of sitting and doing meditating all the time, I try everything and travel everywhere.

In the end, it doesn't matter what you do, but how you do it! What ever you do, do it with passion, live your life with passion, make sure you express love all the time. 

So, Enjoy life!

Take care!

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Who Am I to judge? When I think I know, I don't know that I don't know.

"Things don't change when they are understood. Understanding reinforces the intellect (the ego). The seeker has to make room to the meditative state."

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@JevinR If you want to become a yogi, start with the theory first.

Study `The Yoga Sutra`s` by Patanjali. This will take a year at least to understand.

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@Nic That's just dabbling although, you need a masterplan.

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49 minutes ago, JevinR said:

@Nic That's just dabbling although, you need a masterplan.

Whatever I say will be! As I see it, my plan is not going to be your plan, through my life I have other experiences than you, and anybody else. I don't need a plan, I surrender. When I don't feel happy, I remind my self by taking the habit of self emotional observations that I'm the one creating these emotions. So if I'm not happy in any situation, I see my full responsibility in my feelings, I take another perspective on things, most of the time I choose the gratefulness perspective as it is really easy to realize the thousands of things that are absolutely unbelievable, just think about how your body functions, and all the things it allows you to do right at this second.

What do you want me to say, don't study, be a yogi, that is so cool  ?

Out of all the advices I'could give you, you'll choose what reinforces your ego anyway! Anyway! This is also actually what happened after watching Leo's video, you reinforced the ego, because you have a bad feeling of having one. So it doesn't depends what you do, it depends how you do it. I like to believe that what ever life is giving you to deal with right now, you have a chance to learn from it and to be mindful about it. 

What you experience right now is the side effect of knowing the truth "too early" not because you are too young, but Leo's teaching can be dangerous and be depressing because you have nothing to hold on to. I'm lucky because I did the course I advertise in correct section of the forum, I don't feel lost. I feel grateful. I can only encourage you to take a look. You just haven't train your brain to see life from another perspective at will.

You say everything is a scam, In reality nothing is a scam. It's just a perspective change, an attitude, a commitment to be happy! You can have a happy life studying, going to the office, finding love, get married, having kids... In reality, like everybody else, you just want to be happy, now the question is can you practice awareness doing the things you'll do, whatever that will be, so that whatever happens, you'll choose to see it from the wise perpective, the higher self perspective. It's a long life training and practice.

You don't see the value of living a so called normal life, but there is so much to be thankful for, you just take them for granted, that's it! Nothing makes sens at first sight, on second sight, a lot of it does make sens when you recognize the magic of it all. Once you recognize the value, you might think of closing your eyes, because your mind will be at peace and you then you might fall asleep. For the moment you are having a nightmare falling asleep because your mind is not at peace.

Become a yogi if you want man. Follow your heart, I can't be at your place right now. But as I see it, with my experience of life, this is going to be an experience like any other.

I'm going on 37, single, still don't know what I want to do, I learn guitar zen master style, I'll see what tomorrow has to offer. But I'm happy and I will try to be happy no matter what! In a way, this is my master plan: Deal with awareness in a mindful way to what ever life gives me to deal with, not trying to judge it, staying neutral.

I hope it helps!

Take care!

 

 

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Who Am I to judge? When I think I know, I don't know that I don't know.

"Things don't change when they are understood. Understanding reinforces the intellect (the ego). The seeker has to make room to the meditative state."

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I'm in the same boat. 19, done with society's bullshit, and all I want is to be a yogi. 

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12 hours ago, Infinite said:

I'm in the same boat. 19, done with society's bullshit, and all I want is to be a yogi. 

what is a yogi, and why do you want to be one, why not just become what you really are, why not become self realized,  there are a lot of people claiming to be yogi's, when you self realize you will have reached your highest potential in this physical existence, why not seek that?

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1 hour ago, charlie2dogs said:

what is a yogi, and why do you want to be one, why not just become what you really are, why not become self realized,  there are a lot of people claiming to be yogi's, when you self realize you will have reached your highest potential in this physical existence, why not seek that?

Anyone who practices meditation. Beeing a yogi means beeing a human who devotes his/her life to meditation. :)


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1 hour ago, Infinite said:

@charlie2dogs What makes you think I'm not seeking that? 

then why the label of yogi, a self realized being wears no labels, the reason i ask is labels, keep you functioning as the identity, identity uses labels associated with many things in the physical world such as religion, newage philosophies and doctrines and practices.  What im saying is the liberated consciousness has no labels. it may seem a small thing at this point but it ties in to the identity and functioning of the identity.

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20 minutes ago, Sri McDonald Trump Maharaj said:

Anyone who practices meditation. Beeing a yogi means beeing a human who devotes his/her life to meditation. :)

being a self realized being has nothing to do with yogi's or meditation, the self realized being has dropped those ideas in becoming self realized.  The self realized being has no spiritual practices, no rule book, no beliefs, no philosophies, no doctrines, no labels, if these things are present one cannot, is not and will not be self realized as long as they exist, and these things belong to the fictitious identity.  This may be a hard realization to grasp, but those who are self realized understand it well.

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2 hours ago, charlie2dogs said:

then why the label of yogi, a self realized being wears no labels, the reason i ask is labels, keep you functioning as the identity, identity uses labels associated with many things in the physical world such as religion, newage philosophies and doctrines and practices.  What im saying is the liberated consciousness has no labels. it may seem a small thing at this point but it ties in to the identity and functioning of the identity.

This is all obvious to me, but I cannot translate an idea without using labels. If I were to stop using labels, I would have to go my entire life without speaking. I used the label "yogi" because it was the appropriate label to convey what I was trying to convey. Asking why I'm using the label "yogi", is like asking why I'm using the label "banana". Without the label, I would have absolutely no way of communicating to you what I am eating. Clearly the labels are illusory, but there would be no communication without them.

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8 minutes ago, Infinite said:

This is all obvious to me, but I cannot translate an idea without using labels. If I were to stop using labels, I would have to go my entire life without speaking. I used the label "yogi" because it was the appropriate label to convey what I was trying to convey. Asking why I'm using the label "yogi", is like asking why I'm using the label "banana". Without the label, I would have absolutely no way of communicating to you what I am eating. Clearly the labels are illusory, but there would be no communication without them.

you use the label yogi, because that is what you know and have learned from others, and i understand when people are searching for the realities of life and themselves they only have these labels to go by, until a transition from the identity to a being of consciousness occurs, then labels are not necessary to speak to others about personal growth or self realization, i think you missed the whole point of my response to you, try to see it from a higher place than the identity, it is to your own benefit.

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39 minutes ago, charlie2dogs said:

you use the label yogi, because that is what you know and have learned from others, and i understand when people are searching for the realities of life and themselves they only have these labels to go by, until a transition from the identity to a being of consciousness occurs, then labels are not necessary to speak to others about personal growth or self realization, i think you missed the whole point of my response to you, try to see it from a higher place than the identity, it is to your own benefit.

I use the label yogi, because yogi is typically a word that defines one who devotes their entire life to meditation. Since it was the appropriate label to describe what I want to do, I used it. The label is completely irrelevant. What's your point? 

"until a transition from the identity to a being of consciousness occurs, then labels are not necessary to speak to others about personal growth or self realization" How exactly are you going to speak to anyone at all without labels? You're using labels right now. If you weren't, the conversation would look like this: 



Impossible.

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