This Week's Video Delayed

[Rilles]

10 minutes ago, Charlotte said:

@Rilles Get some salt water gargled?Lemon and honey drink? (Alternative to honey if your veganised)

Tried honey, apple vinegar, vitamins, I think im getting better, I have some Triphala I got for free, might try that later

[alankrillin]

Well it seems the video was released and was just late rather than a skip, so I need to apologise to Leo, normally I wouldn't say anything but this was going to be like what? the 3rd or 4th skip since the new year.

 

7 hours ago, Jed Vassallo said:

This is an extremely Orange perspective. Not everything is about money and trying to get something for yourself. Leo is trying to Awaken people. He could easily charge thousands of dollars for his content, but he doesn't because, for him, that's not what it's about. It's about sharing what's he's discovered for himself, and through that sharing, hopefully others that are on a similar path can find their way too. If it's just entertainment for you, I pity you. For me, it's the greatest knowledge I've heard yet in my life. It's the clearest path to peace and freedom from ego, that I've ever heard.

Don't pity me, pity yourself, Leo does in fact have a lot of stage orange elements to him and he's mentioned them. Do you think actualized.org would exist if leo has no business plans about it? Leo is very business mind orientated, don't kid yourself.

• He is selling eyeballs views, this is a fact, if he wasn't his videos would be demonitized and ad free, but they are not, so no point arguing this point,  I'm not saying this is a bad or good thing, I'm saying it has ad revenue, fact!
   
• Leo has mentioned he makes 6 figures a year, and he has savings for at least 10 years if he quits working.
   
• Leo has mentioned in his first *real* game design job he asked for a payrise really early and quit when he didnt get it.
   
• Leo has mentioned he made A LOT of money from online marketing, blackhat style backlinking and was against his morals and values.
   
• Leo is the only person I've ever seen online or offline selling NOT a book but a "books list" with 1-2 minute voice reviews. Usually everyone gives book recommendations out free, from teachers to websites, bloggers, and youtubers. I don't have a "orange perspective on it", it is a freaking orange business model.

I'm not being anti leo here, just realistic, I like his videos, and yes they are entertainment for me, some people like cat videos some people like philosophy videos on youtube. And I'm not saying anything he's doing is wrong. But lets not kid ourselves, the benefits work both ways, many people would kill to have leo's audience for their channels. There's already been a lot of copy cat channels inspired from actualized.org.

Edited February 12, 2019 by alankrillin

[Aakash]

EPIC PUN given the situation

[Shin]

17 minutes ago, alankrillin said:

Well it seems the video was released and was just late rather than a skip, so I need to apologise to Leo, normally I wouldn't say anything but this was going to be like what? the 3rd or 4th skip since the new year.

 

Don't pity me, pity yourself, Leo does in fact have a lot of stage orange elements to him and he's mentioned them. Do you think actualized.org would exist if leo has no business plans about it? Leo is very business mind orientated, don't kid yourself.

• He is selling eyeballs views, this is a fact, if he wasn't his videos would be demonitized and ad free, but they are not, so no point arguing this point,  I'm not saying this is a bad or good thing, I'm saying it has ad revenue, fact!
   
• Leo has mentioned he makes 6 figures a year, and he has savings for at least 10 years if he quits working.
   
• Leo has mentioned in his first *real* game design job he asked for a payrise really early and quit when he didnt get it.
   
• Leo has mentioned he made A LOT of money from online marketing, blackhat style backlinking and was against his morals and values.
   
• Leo is the only person I've ever seen online or offline selling NOT a book but a "books list" with 1-2 minute voice reviews. Usually everyone gives book recommendations out free, from teachers to websites, bloggers, and youtubers. I don't have a "orange perspective on it", it is a freaking orange business model.

I'm not being anti leo here, just realistic, I like his videos, and yes they are entertainment for me, some people like cat videos some people like philosophy videos on youtube. And I'm not saying anything he's doing is wrong. But lets not kid ourselves, the benefits work both ways, many people would kill to have leo's audience for their channels. There's already been a lot of copy cat channels inspired from actualized.org.

Sadghuru, Eckhart Tolle, Spira, Adya, Byron, Mooji ...

All have a youtube channel and a website.

All make you pay for content in it and/or for retreat.

[Rilles]

People make money doing what they love? 

[alankrillin]

5 minutes ago, Shin said:

Sadghuru, Eckhart Tolle, Spira, Adya, Byron, Mooji ...

All have a youtube channel and a website.

All make you pay for content in it and/or for retreat.

Bit of a strawman, what's that got to do with my point, I never said those people are not business oriented.

They also all have free videos on youtube.

[Shin]

1 minute ago, alankrillin said:

Bit of a strawman, what's that got to do with my point, I never said those people are not business oriented.

They also all have free videos on youtube.

Are you saying Sadghuru or Eckhart Tolle has orange shadows in them ?

[alankrillin]

7 minutes ago, Shin said:

Are you saying Sadghuru or Eckhart Tolle has orange shadows in them ?

Everyone (in a normal society, e.g. not in isolation) has orange elements in them to which degree is another question, I suggest you read the book and rewatch the video again.

Edited February 12, 2019 by alankrillin

[Aakash]

You don't understand spiral dynamics 

making money does not mean you are orange. 

all categories are a facet, that can fit within each stage of the spiral. but making money is an objective, the perspective being making the money is the stage. 

 

Edited February 12, 2019 by Aakash

[Charlotte]

@Rilles ?

[alankrillin]

5 minutes ago, Aakash said:

You don't understand spiral dynamics 

making money does not mean you are orange. 

all categories are a facet, that can fit within each stage of the spiral. but making money is an objective, the perspective being making the money is the stage. 

 

Holding a book list for ransom is orange I would say, your just going into opinions now.

Imagine if your teacher at school said, I'd recommend some books on your science project, but you need to pay me first.

His course is fine, but his booklist, which I think came out before his course, was a quick product to sell along side his new youtube channel / website.

Edited February 12, 2019 by alankrillin

[Aakash]

but the books contain all spectrum knowledge, so how does that make it orange lol it makes it halocratic thinking and turquoise automatically? 

[alankrillin]

1 hour ago, Shin said:

Sadghuru, Eckhart Tolle, Spira, Adya, Byron, Mooji ...

All have a youtube channel and a website.

All make you pay for content in it and/or for retreat.

Apparently eckhart puts most of his earnings towards his foundation.

The purpose of the Eckhart Tolle Foundation is to bring Eckhart Tolle's teachings to communities and segments of the population that have hitherto had little or no access to them. Through book donations, free digital subscriptions, event scholarships, and free broadcasts, the foundation will begin by focusing on these three population segments.

Sadhguru also has an ashram free to people, and gives free food, etc.

So all the people who can afford it, are basically funding it for the people who can't afford it, which is great.

This is how digital goods should be as well, I think people who can afford it should supprot companies and products, whilst those who can't afford it should be able to download digital products anyway. The problem is when people who can afford things also start torrenting etc. out of greed, and theres a lot of greed unfortunately.

[Aakash]

@alankrillin i don't think you understand the extent to the amount of work leo does, 

do you know how many books this guy has to read to understand the maya looooooool! 

toooooo many, there is no way he can fund it giving out free items when especially he is running the business by himself 

when you have a group of people helping, the combined effort can be enough to give out free seminars etc however, this is not that. 

i'm not defending him, i'm just showing you the logic of business and self-survival 

you should ask him yourself, why he sells the book list and LP course for x dollars. 

[Forestluv]

@alankrillin There is a contracted mental narrative your self is attached to and identified with. 

[alankrillin]

1 hour ago, Serotoninluv said:

@alankrillin There is a contracted mental narrative your self is attached to and identified with. 

Not interested in you trying to make this about me or define me.  Thanks.

Keep on topic, subject is Leo's video is delayed, not me. 

If I bother you investigate your own feelings. 

[Forestluv]

25 minutes ago, alankrillin said:

Not interested in you trying to make this about me or define me.  Thanks.

Keep on topic, subject is Leo's video is delayed, not me. 

If I bother you investigate your own feelings. 

It’s not a personal comnent. It is a trans-personal observation. 

Egoic dynamics involve a strong sense of  “you” and “me”. An ego will try to maintain and protect that division. It is necessary for the ego’s own survival, yet causes a sense of separation and unease.

[alankrillin]

1 hour ago, Serotoninluv said:

It’s not a personal comnent. It is a trans-personal observation. 

Egoic dynamics involve a strong sense of  “you” and “me”. An ego will try to maintain and protect that division. It is necessary for the ego’s own survival, yet causes a sense of separation and unease.

You're clearly talking to me as a seperate self.

Label it however you want, repackage it, post it. It's one ego judging another ego at the end of the day.

In oneness there is no comment. The spiritual mumbo jumbo to climb on high horses is a a lot of bullshit. As alan watts said "Spiritual people walk around saying 'my game is better than your game'".

If me and you enter pure consciousness we become the exact same thing, but as our vessels we have two entirely different perspectives.

Edited February 12, 2019 by alankrillin

[Forestluv]

@alankrillin There is an opportunity to expand here, yet you don't have interest in exploring and expanding into a new space. You've declined my invitation and I respect that. 

[alankrillin]

25 minutes ago, Serotoninluv said:

@alankrillin There is an opportunity to expand here, yet you don't have interest in exploring and expanding into a new space. You've declined my invitation and I respect that. 

You dont have anything to teach me, don't care about your small narrow observation.

Thank you for respecting my decision, now don't quote me anymore thanks.

In fact I was only here in this thread to say if leo is going to continually miss 3-4 videos like he did since the start of the new year he should give us a heads up about his new schedule.

And it quickly derailed into strawman, fanboyism, and petty arguments. People can't even accept the fact that people make money from ads, the worlds most famous youtubers and twitch streamers make over $1+ million a year in revenue, thats not free, we (us audience, are the product when these platforms are "free", advertisers pay for us "views").

Again, im not saying this is bad, I think he deserves all the money he gets, but its not a charity, it's a business model. I'm sure leo would be devastated if he had 0 views tomorrow and 0 interests. So it works both ways, he benefits us and he gets back in return.

Edited February 12, 2019 by alankrillin