Posted January 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Joseph Maynor said: Really? How so? Because a turquoise person doesn't care about what people think of them. And they are way beyond survival. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1, 2019 One story I've been seeing consistently for over 1 year in this forum: People picking on Joseph. Lets just stop. Peace out. Take care. ''Not this... Not this... PLEASE...Not this...'' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1, 2019 Spiral Dynamics has nothing to do with Enlightenment. Your stage in Spiral Dynamics only determines what you want to do with your life. Enlightenment determines what your life actually is. You can be at stage beige and be "enlightened" at the same time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1, 2019 Quote No video this week???? Hark ye yet again — the little lower layer. All visible objects, man, are but as pasteboard masks. But in each event — in the living act, the undoubted deed — there, some unknown but still reasoning thing puts forth the mouldings of its features from behind the unreasoning mask. If man will strike, strike through the mask! How can the prisoner reach outside except by thrusting through the wall? To me, the white whale is that wall, shoved near to me. Sometimes I think there's naught beyond. But 'tis enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Genghis Khan said: Spiral Dynamics has nothing to do with Enlightenment. Your stage in Spiral Dynamics only determines what you want to do with your life. Enlightenment determines what your life actually is. You can be at stage beige and be "enlightened" at the same time. Finally someone said it. Thank you SD stages are just set of beliefs, values and worldviews. Tools to navigate inside the dream Edited January 1, 2019 by Preetom ''Not this... Not this... PLEASE...Not this...'' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1, 2019 @Joseph Maynor 1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said: Spiral Dynamics is not just a set of beliefs. Spiral Dynamics is a theory that is tracking basically increasing consciousness — or we might call it adult development. Are you saying that Spiral Dynamics is "not just a set of beliefs" because you believe there's value in the beliefs? Hark ye yet again — the little lower layer. All visible objects, man, are but as pasteboard masks. But in each event — in the living act, the undoubted deed — there, some unknown but still reasoning thing puts forth the mouldings of its features from behind the unreasoning mask. If man will strike, strike through the mask! How can the prisoner reach outside except by thrusting through the wall? To me, the white whale is that wall, shoved near to me. Sometimes I think there's naught beyond. But 'tis enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said: Spiral Dynamics is not just a set of beliefs. Spiral Dynamics is a theory that is tracking basically increasing consciousness — or we might call it adult development. You gotta look at what the theory is pointing to in the world. Consciousness doesn't increase or decrease. The game of life is all about aligning with certain beliefs, values, actions and perspectives that produce less and less amount of friction down the line. In other words, making one's dream smoother and smoother. The project never ends though. Edited January 1, 2019 by Preetom ''Not this... Not this... PLEASE...Not this...'' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) @Joseph Maynor Random question which is just me asking asking out of boredom, but how confident do you feel about the existence of the stages (e.g. blue or yellow or any other color) in spiral dynamics and the existence of the progression of these stages? I'm just interested in what you say because you seem to have thought/read about spiral dynamics a fair bit. On the one hand I sort of believe in it, but on the other hand I don't know whether any Spiral Dynamics explanations I have about things are just confirmation bias. Random thought I had on confirmation bias. Supposing that the world was entirely rational and logical and could be explained with the metaphysics of your bog-standard empiricist it follows that the human mind is neither smart enough or observant enough to logically sort through all the events and happenings in the universe (the universe is too chaotic with way too many variables). And because our brains are not powerful enough ( you could think of IQ as being a component of "power" if you want) to work out the "true answer" to certain questions my mind will instead deduce the answer to questions by using an increased number of assumptions and increased number of jumps in logical reasoning. Supposing that in reality it takes 100 logical steps to reach the true answer to a question, my mind might only use 6 steps due to the presence of further assumptions and jumps in reasoning which are caused by my world view (e.g. spiral dynamics). Quote Spiral Dynamics is a useful tool to help you develop a more and more Enlightened Ego. Living with an Enlightened Ego is like living with a healthy body. Nobody forces you to live with a healthy body, but it’s much better to live with a more healthy body rather than a less healthy body. Spiral Dynamics is like food for creating a healthy Ego. Healthy body, healthy Ego. It’s interesting that our views of Ego are so warped that saying “healthy Ego” seems like an oxymoron rather than a virtue. good answer Edited January 1, 2019 by lmfao Hark ye yet again — the little lower layer. All visible objects, man, are but as pasteboard masks. But in each event — in the living act, the undoubted deed — there, some unknown but still reasoning thing puts forth the mouldings of its features from behind the unreasoning mask. If man will strike, strike through the mask! How can the prisoner reach outside except by thrusting through the wall? To me, the white whale is that wall, shoved near to me. Sometimes I think there's naught beyond. But 'tis enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) There is a lot more that determines the health of an Ego than just Spiral Dynamics. You can have a perfectly healthy Ego and be any stage on the spiral. Spiral Dynamics is just one variable out of many. Spiral Dynamics is more about motivations. What is the best kind of life? The answer differs depending on the stage. I say the best kind of life is to crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women! Edited January 1, 2019 by Genghis Khan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1, 2019 42 minutes ago, Preetom said: Consciousness doesn't increase or decrease. The game of life is all about aligning with certain beliefs, values, actions and perspectives that produce less and less amount of friction down the line. In other words, making one's dream smoother and smoother. The project never ends though. Yes it does, How could my spiritual ego can feel better if it isn't the case ? Are you saying I'm equal to everyone else ? This is green propaganda, trying to put everyone on the same plate ! God is love Whoever lives in love lives in God And God in them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Shin said: Yes it does, How could my spiritual ego can feel better if it isn't the case ? Are you saying I'm equal to everyone else ? This is green propaganda, trying to put everyone on the same plate ! ''Not this... Not this... PLEASE...Not this...'' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1, 2019 So explain to me guys, How does it feels to know that the teacher you were a fanboy of is dead ? You thought you weren't identified to a teacher, but when he dies it's a whole different story right ? ? God is love Whoever lives in love lives in God And God in them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Shin said: So explain to me guys, How does it feels to know that the teacher you were a fanboy of is dead ? You thought you weren't identified to a teacher, but when he dies it's a whole different story right ? ? I miss the pixels on the screen already... he was so flat... and 3d... Dont look at me! Look inside! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1, 2019 34 minutes ago, Shin said: So explain to me guys, How does it feels to know that the teacher you were a fanboy of is dead ? You thought you weren't identified to a teacher, but when he dies it's a whole different story right ? ? it’s quite interesting isn’t it - and how the teachings die every minute because the scholars won’t die a single death. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, now is forever said: it’s quite interesting isn’t it - and how the teachings die every minute because the scholars won’t die a single death. where is leo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1, 2019 Just now, theking00 said: where is leo? Hes been lookign for himself for years and now even we cant find him... smh Dont look at me! Look inside! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rilles said: Hes been lookign for himself for years and now even we cant find him... smh I've a feeling that after Leo comes back, he will block all of us acting like monkeys on steroid Or put us on a 100 hour self-inquiry drill.. ''Not this... Not this... PLEASE...Not this...'' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Rilles said: Hes been lookign for himself for years and now even we cant find him... smh is this spoken from a dual or non dual perspective? Edited January 1, 2019 by now is forever it was the most hilarious post though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, Preetom said: I've a feeling that after Leo comes back, he will block all of us acting like monkeys on steroid Or put us on a 100 hour self-inquiry drill.. Haha... ive been such a bad boy... i need a 10 hr SDS torture sit Dont look at me! Look inside! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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