Can't do this on my own

[clouffy]

I want a high quality counsellor, or some kind of spiritual teacher

it's hard to get a personal mentor, though

but at times of great confusion it's great to have one

thoughts?

[ivankiss]

What seems to be the great confusion at this time? 

I know no mentor. But a mentor may not be the only one who can help.

[Anton Rogachevski]

My mentors are: Videos, Books, this forum is also one. It doesn't necessarily have to be in person, nor personal. Leo, Alan Watts' lectures, are my main source of inspiration.

Keep researching and broadening your scope. Learn basic tools and principles:

Meditation, mindfulness, emotional intelligence, contemplation, visualization, integration, open-mind, self honesty, authenticity, modesty is a big one.

By building this foundation, you become your own mentor.

[clouffy]

@ivankiss @Anton Rogachevski thanks. it's just sometimes you get to a point you really want to experience the physical being of enlightened indivduals. and have them in your proximity

[Nahm]

@clouffy Wether an “enlightened person” turned out to have any unique presence or not - what questions would you ask them? 

[clouffy]

@Nahm i will want to hug them, if possible

[Nahm]

@clouffy Why?

[clouffy]

@Nahm to see how they respond to human touch, and to physically connect with their spiritual energy, as if i were a conductor

[Nahm]

@clouffy 

Are you able to pinpoint, or even generalize, what led you to the thinking that there is “their” spiritual energy, as compared with there just being spiritual energy, or your spiritual energy? Is it possible that is the very teaching they are offering?

How do you presume they would respond to human touch, that would be different than how you do? 

What comes to mind - what you’ve heard, etc - which leads you to think they are more of a conductor of this energy than you yourself? 

(Not that I am against people seeing guru’s - it’s the “He or she is enlightened, and I am not thinking, that I hope to draw out into the light)

 

[clouffy]

@Nahm i see, i haven't been thinking about it that deeply. it's just the sense of presence that i'm longing for, i guess. and to be able to converse with them and talk to them about my specific situation in life would be of great help. many of the spiritual teachings i have to try to mould and apply it to the situations i'm facing would be much more effective if i could hear how a spiritual teacher would respond to my situation directly. 

[Jack River]

Confusion arises out of the impulse to choose  between “things” of thought. The mind is looking to depend on some sort of knowledge and exclude its own reality to transcend it’s confusion. As if the self was distinct from the confusion.

The self(the chooser) is the confusion. Any action of the chooser will meet the fact with the abstraction which sustains the confusion. 

A self is confused because it’s always trying to escape what is to ‘what it thinks, or doesn’t think it should be’(the past)(thought). 

The self says what do “I” do about this moment to moment insecurity...

So the self in its very confused state tries to choose from that state of confusion. No matter what it chooses to do about the fact remains nonfact(abstraction)...this is resistance which sustains a duality between what is and what should be(conflict). 

Edited December 27, 2018 by Jack River

[Jack River]

To depend on any authority, especially our own (past knowledge, experience) to transcend the fact of what is from moment to moment, will always lead to and susitan confusion. 

The self seeking certainty/permanence in time(itself)... Confusion breeding loop. 

Edited December 27, 2018 by Jack River

[Nahm]

@clouffy

Well you’ve got a whole community right here, not mention access to Leo, who’s knowledge and insight is really unsurpassed. You can get many perspectives. Typically, some “click” with someone, and others don’t. It’s an efficient way of finding the person / advice you click with. You can message me anytime you want, if you feel my two cents is helpful.

Counseling / therapy can be very helpful for psychological clarity. Reading such books are helpful too. 

A Master Reiki Teacher / Practitioner can be very helpful with chakras, discovering your meridians, energy alignment, love & healing in general.

There are countless spiritual videos on youtube. It’s practically become a “search my specific issue” library. One subject, but a handful of teachers explaining it in their way, culminates to be a more insightful understanding.

 

A couple things that maybe you could look at differently...

“I see, I haven’t been thinking about it that deeply”.

Consider changing the perspective of “deeply”, to simply “inquiry”, or more simply put, just taking a look at it. 

“It’s just the sense of presence that I’m longing for”

Can you talk a little about “presence”? What is it, to you?

[TheAvatarState]

@clouffy you're not alone... You're here, aren't you? Present some great questions to us, and we'll be happy to answer. You can try to go to seminars and retreats to meet high consciousness people, but you're probably not gonna find one to mentor you very easily. Not saying it can't happen; just don't hang your success on the notion of finding some spiritual Guru to guide you. 

Enlightenment doesn't just rub off on you from an enlightened master. At the end of the day, you have to learn to be self sufficient on this path. You can't expect anyone else to just take your hand and guide you along... You are the hero of YOUR OWN hero's journey, and you're ultimately going to face your inner demons alone. 

One other thing I'll add is this: your longing for enlightenment is what's holding you back. It is not a thing, it is not a place, it is not a marvelous event. I'd encourage you to read my post "Existence is a TV screen: My Enlightenment Experience." And never forget, we're always here for you! ❤️