How do veteran buddhist monks calmly endure being burned alive?

[TheAvatarState]

Because they've released all of their earthly attachments. They've already died.

[ValiantSalvatore]

@CreamCat No, it seemed similar to having a 30-minute meditation in one minute similar when time seems to speed up with psychedelics, with a good posture even seated it is possible to tell when you fall asleep. Same with sitting, it's not the same as falling asleep when I went deeper my body did some movement on its own and moved forward, I snapped back because I was scared and wanted to regain posture, I explained this to the teacher he told me I was going deeper and I was not tired at that day. I feel asleep during lying meditation when I went over the 30+ minute mark which is fine IMO, dropping from consciousness to consciousness IMO. But, this happened after the last weekend retreat, so it is rather new. And I rarely do it. But helps without having a good support structure to keep up with practice. I usually take a warm to cold shower so I feel very fit and active often times when there is no external stress for a meditation session in the morning. 

This " going deeper" was during a weekend retreat and happened also during my zen retreat when I was exhausted after samu, so there is some causation to physical exhaustion and going deeper because your body simply relaxes. I am not doing much sport, but my body is very good. So, I feel that. Similar to what Ken Wilber recommends for "growing up" through the spiral or stages, that any form of working out physically helps, but weightlifting according to their "studies" is the thing to do.

In my "infant" journey for some self-criticism. I was scared what other people think of me when I meditate in some public space as long as they are not my roommates. So, I looked up lying down meditation and use my arm as biofeedback advice, I did this while I traveled by train for example and had my own bed there with others in the compartment etc. Or at hostels. Or went outside after some sports and meditated with sports clothes.  

Edited December 31, 2018 by ValiantSalvatore

[CreamCat]

@ValiantSalvatore Damn, you had a weekend retreat at a temple? I just finished doing a one-day solo retreat at home. It is not as intense as yours.

[Hellspeed]

Is as stupid as a waste of time and suicide is not a virtue, is not true courage. What I see on these monks is just cultural harakiri mentality, nothing much, another form of belief that is virtuous in their society. So don't confuse an enlightened master with an ascetic that does not feel anymore and castrated himself. 

[K VIL]

I don't have much time to research atm. there's no f'in way.

You're telling me people do this ,without like a condition where they don't feel physical sensations?

Nope

[katykat]

@CreamCat No screaming, no flailing, just sat, burned, died.

[CreamCat]

2 hours ago, katykat said:

@CreamCat No screaming, no flailing, just sat, burned, died.

Why did she commit suicide?

[ValiantSalvatore]

@CreamCat No, it was via an online programm. 

[CreamCat]

@ValiantSalvatore How is a weekend retreat possible on the internet? The internet is distracting.

[ValiantSalvatore]

@CreamCat Shinzen Young home pratice programm

[katykat]

9 hours ago, CreamCat said:

Why did she commit suicide?

I don't know.