How can you trust your mind?

[purerogue]

If I would have to describe what is awareness, then it would be sense of true self, something that is not your ego, your memory, but your true self. 

But then again it is complicated to explain with words. 

[Nahm]

37 minutes ago, Anton Rogachevski said:

How do you know thoughts aren't awareness? Think awareness. Coming up with anything?

Are thoughts separate from awareness? “Separate is a thought”

What is a thought? Your own illusion.

What is awareness? You. 

@SOUL Where's our old chimp friend Soul to come here and resolve this with his beautiful integrative thoughts? I miss you bro. See the sneakiness of thought here. 

This derived from this....

41 minutes ago, Anton Rogachevski said:

@Nahm

My dear friend, it may work for you because you are more advanced than me and can see it right away, but for my petty logical mind it's just not cutting it. I wish you well. Nonsense. Don’t be fooled by “The Enlightened People”. Again, see the sneakiness. 

Which derived from this...

8 hours ago, Anton Rogachevski said:

As beautiful and profound what you say is, how do you reach such a conclusion? Are you aware of “conclusions”? Which is first, primary?

Do you see the sneakiness?

The separate self evades Truth like a ninja. That is it’s function, it’s purpose - the experience of a separate self, for experience sake. Accomplished with the mind bending simplicity of believing thoughts, taking finite thoughts, as infinite or lasting, Truth. 

In your direct experience, in this moment, look for pieces of awareness. 

In your direct experience, in this moment, look for pieces of love. 

 

    There are no pieces of awareness, nor pieces of love. 

    These are infinite, these are The Self, these are You.

 

 

[Anton Rogachevski]

3 minutes ago, Nahm said:

Think awareness. Coming up with anything?

Just more thoughts.

 

5 minutes ago, Nahm said:

“Separate is a thought”

Beautiful! There's no such thing as "separation" in the first place. Another basic assumption caught! You are good at this.

 

7 minutes ago, Nahm said:

What is a thought? Your own illusion.

I'm afraid I don't get it. Is this what a thought is existentially? (I know more thoughts)

 

10 minutes ago, Nahm said:

What is awareness? You. 

 Why? I don't know if I could say it. There appears to be an awareness, how do I know it's me?

 

12 minutes ago, Nahm said:

Do you see the sneakiness?

I don't get it, where is the sneakiness?

[Jack River]

Thought loves to identify with/as god, awareness, or what ever. Identification itself implies resistance.

Step out of the river of time dudes. 

Edited December 27, 2018 by Jack River

[Nahm]

1 minute ago, Jack River said:

Thought loves to identify with/as god, awareness, or what ever. Identification itself implies resistance itself. 

Step out of the river of time dudes. 

Thought can’t identify, nor can thought love, it is love. That it can do anything is actually just another thought. Time is also just thought.

[Anton Rogachevski]

3 minutes ago, Jack River said:

Identification

This is also a thought. I just learned this from nahm! : )

Also:

Relation

Seperation

 

Please add more of those sneaky thoughts! I love what we got here.

[Nahm]

31 minutes ago, Anton Rogachevski said:

I'm afraid I don't get it. Is this what a thought is existentially? (I know more thoughts)

 

32 minutes ago, Anton Rogachevski said:

Why? I don't know if I could say it. There appears to be an awareness, how do I know it's me

 

32 minutes ago, Anton Rogachevski said:

I don't get it, where is the sneakiness?

 

Consider a sound. Do you have or experience a sound, or do you actually experience the awareness of a sound?

The sneakiness is in believing thoughts. Thoughts are things, like trees (illusionary). Thought can be combined, appearing to form new thoughts (illusionary). There is the thought “that sound”. There is the actuality of awareness of. 

In believing the thought “I am experiencing a sound”, the sound is implied to be a separate thing. But sound was not actually experienced, awareness is. All “separate things” appear as “separate things” by believing the thought “separate things”. 

(Worth noting, “infinite” is also just a word, a pointer. As, it would not be helpful to say that there is even not awareness, but only, me.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Jack River]

Thinking implies a movement of identification(to recognize). 

The process of attachment/identification which implies resistance denies love. 

Time is thought, and when time is in movement there is no love. 

[Nahm]

9 minutes ago, Anton Rogachevski said:

This is also a thought. I just learned this from nahm! : )

Also:

Relation

Seperation

 

Please add more of those sneaky thoughts! I love what we got here.

Any insight, or “learning” is you too. Nahm is your illusion.

[Nahm]

2 minutes ago, Jack River said:

Thinking implies a movement of identification(to recognize). 

The process of attachment/identification which implies resistance denies love. 

Time is thought, and when time is in movement there is no love. 

Thought can not imply. Nor is it any kind of movement. All thought is your illusion, just like any identification, process, or resistance. 

All is love. To believe otherwise, you must first believe a thought of separation. 

Time can not be “in movement”, there is no such thing as time, nor movement.

[Jack River]

Any identification(resistance/attachment) or continuity of TIME/FEAR

[Jack River]

2 minutes ago, Nahm said:

Nor is it any kind of movement.

 

2 minutes ago, Nahm said:

All thought is your illusion

Still a movement 

[Anton Rogachevski]

@Jack River By all means, stop moving.

[Jack River]

Awareness doesn’t exclude 

[Nahm]

@Anton Rogachevski Are you aware?

[Anton Rogachevski]

2 hours ago, Nahm said:

Consider a sound. Do you have or experience a sound, or do you actually experience the awareness of a sound?

There's no experience, nor awareness, just a sound appears and disappears.

What is "awareness of a sound"?

 

2 hours ago, Nahm said:

(Worth noting, “infinite” is also just a word, a pointer. As, it would not be helpful to say that there is even not awareness, but only, me.)

There is neither. Please don't objectify awareness, it is confusing. Why talk about nothing?

Edited December 27, 2018 by Anton Rogachevski

[Nahm]

@Anton Rogachevski Right.  Who’s asking? ???

[Anton Rogachevski]

@Nahm MU

[Nahm]

@Anton Rogachevski ?

@Roman Edouard “How can you trust your mind?”  - Was our ramble helpful for your inquiry?

[Nahm]

27 minutes ago, Jack River said:

 

Still a movement 

The thought that thought is a movement is yet just another sneaky thought. 

Movement is not actually. 

When you describe thought as “movement”, see that there is no actual movement. It’s just a linguistic descriptive, another thought. 

Movement is illusory.