Mezanti

Eben pagan Dating advice!

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dating, relationships and sexuality are things that need to be looked at systematically and in detail in order to have a real and practical understanding of them,, about a week ago i discovered Eben Pagan, specifically his dating advice, he goes under the name David DeAngelo, and he makes these really amazing videos about dating:

Consider me doing this be saving a whole chunk of your time spent on forums, youtube videos trying to understand this subject:

But as with every good thing there is bad, this guys stuff is kinda hard to find, you gotta actually search for him on various channels, and websites. 

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1 hour ago, Mezanti said:

this guys stuff is kinda hard to find

Not only is it hard to find, when you watch his videos its also hard to find any actual advice lol

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@Mezanti Even Pagan is outdated at this point regarding pickup. 

Some better modern teachers for this are:

  • Todd Valentine
  • RSD Max
  • RSD Tyler

Todd is the best teacher and has the most logical, systematic way of approaching dating, sexuality and pickup. 

Also, be on the lookout for Denton Fisher. He might blow up soon and become the best pickup artist out there and thus leader of the pickup field. 

Eben Pagan is good, but he is much more dedicated to business than dating right now. That chapter is much over for him. 

 It's better to not waste time and follow those that dedicate their life to this field and make a living solely off of it. 


”Unaccompanied by positive action, rest may only depress you.” -- George Leonard

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21 hours ago, Dan Arnautu said:

@Mezanti Even Pagan is outdated at this point regarding pickup. 

Some better modern teachers for this are:

  • Todd Valentine
  • RSD Max
  • RSD Tyler

Todd is the best teacher and has the most logical, systematic way of approaching dating, sexuality and pickup. 

Also, be on the lookout for Denton Fisher. He might blow up soon and become the best pickup artist out there and thus leader of the pickup field. 

Eben Pagan is good, but he is much more dedicated to business than dating right now. That chapter is much over for him. 

 It's better to not waste time and follow those that dedicate their life to this field and make a living solely off of it. 

I second this. I'd also add Julien and AMS

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@iGhost Julien's pickup days are over. He even deleted all his pickup videos. He is 100% self-help teacher right now. 

No doubt he remains one of the greatest pickup artists though. 

I think AMS is a bit too tryhard and has a pretty bitter view towards women. I like his blunt way of portraying ideas, tacticts and strategies, but I feel like he is not that cognitively developed.

He gotta read more books cuz his brain doesn't allow for much nuance right now I see. 


”Unaccompanied by positive action, rest may only depress you.” -- George Leonard

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