Zigzag Idiot and the ladder of Objective Reason

[Zigzag Idiot]

5 hours ago, seeking_brilliance said:

@Zigzag Idiot wow thanks! Very much appreciated. I am waiting for the right time to really sit and digest this. Thank you for thinking of me ? could you remind me in a week or two, just for good measure? ?

You’re welcome and Thank you.

Will do, maybe in just a subtle way.

 

[seeking_brilliance]

@Zigzag Idiot I'm sure I'll have read it by then, but interested to see this subtle reminder ?

[Zigzag Idiot]

 

 

I been pretty busy lately. Just ran across this short clip that I liked the message of.

 

[Zigzag Idiot]

Attitude Adjustment
by Dr. Jim Rosen
©2021 Dr. Jim Rosen
 

    Attitude determines a lot.  Attitude is the way we look at the world.  Attitude is the maker of the lenses we wear on our eyes.  I know this guy who's a "sourpuss."  He keeps thinking that life is handing him a raw deal.  What he doesn't see is his part in it.  He looks for the bad stuff; he expects bad stuff to happen; he exudes an attitude of "bad stuff is around every corner."  The world accommodates him by giving back what he puts out.  But he can learn to adjust his attitude.  We can all learn to see in ways that clear up the image and promote our well being.  Everyone has bad things - painful things - happen in their life.  It's often attitude that makes the difference. It's not a matter of telling yourself positive or peppy statements you don't believe.  It's not that simple.  Rose-colored glasses don't give a true picture of the world, either.  Attitude adjustment is learned by changing your focus, by evaluating situations with an open mind, and by frequently practicing new behaviors.

[seeking_brilliance]

@Zigzag Idiot ok I read it... That's exactly what I'm 'seeking' - or in other words, drawing near.  Thank you so much.

 

Though I wonder how brilliant it is that it took this long to read a few paragraphs ??

Edited March 25, 2021 by seeking_brilliance

[Zigzag Idiot]

Good deal. I’m glad I shared it then and you’re very welcome. 

15 hours ago, seeking_brilliance said:

Though I wonder how brilliant it is that it took this long to read a few paragraphs ??

In most Fourth Way Schools/ groups it’s often pointed out how the “intellectual center” is the slowest of the 3 centers with emotional center being faster and instinctual center being the fastest. Good thinking, it can then be argued is slow. What’s often viewed as the most seeming intelligent, being witty, is actually the mechanical part of the intellectual center, thought by association represented by the jack of diamonds. Quick but shallow, in a sense. King of diamonds is slower in speed but extremely deliberate. People whose center of gravity is in the emotional part of the intellectual center, queen of diamonds are the ones who will often have 10 books going at once and are excited about knowledge in general. Just throwing in some trivia,,,, ?

[seeking_brilliance]

@Zigzag Idiot please always share anything you feel inspired to with me. Like I said, I admire your ability to sum up your wealth of knowledge for me. 

[Zigzag Idiot]

I shared this book with a friend a couple of years ago and rereading it recently she pointed this out to me last week.

From Robert Sardello’s book Silence-

 

This reminds me of one of Hans Wilhelm’s short video’s

I don’t go for all of this but find it really interesting. It isn’t a belief I hold but just something that seems really worth pondering.

 

[Zigzag Idiot]

I wasn’t watching what I was doing. It’s been a busy day In Terence’s video above I especially get a kick out of 1:30 -2:00 or so,,,

Thank you @seeking_brilliance  and anytime you feel inspired to share something, please do. Y’all have to watch about giving me compliments like people who can drink and know the influence they may have on alcoholics in their lives. I get self-congratulatory really easy. Sneaking in forms of boasting and bragging,,, or think I’m sneaking. Everything goes around and around. Pride goeth before a fall, the saying goes. I’ve fallen countless times and doubt that I’ve reached my end in that regard. Lots of experience I’ve had being the fool. Remembering ‘beginners mind’ helps the process there I’ve found. Most of the time.

Below is the video I meant to post this morning.

 

 

[seeking_brilliance]

@Zigzag Idiot I like to offer the same help to people as I would want in return.  I also boast, you should see me in my night dreams! Love showing off my flying skills   . I think there's a place for boasting, or maybe its another expression we are mistaking for boasting. 

[Zigzag Idiot]

@seeking_brilliance I agree. The thought came to me just a second ago in relation to the virtues expressed in the enneagram. Perhaps a combination of someone expressing courage, faith, will, equanimity, Love, omniscience, and truth. Exuberance came to mind also but it’s not related to the enneagram specifically. Exuberance could also be somewhat egoic in attitude ,,,,,?

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The Oracle of the Cosmic Way - “Even a lean pig has it in him to rage around”

I consulted the I CHING first thing this morning. Carol Anthony and Hanna Moog kept some of the metaphors from the old I CHING in their reproduction and some of them are quite humorous. 
In my reading I got hexagram 44 - Coming to Meet -lines 1 and 4 producing a second hexagram which was 9 - The Taming Power of the Small.

In line 1 of hexagram 44 it says - “Even a lean pig has it in him to rage around.”

I’m putting some of this text below if anyone is interested in looking at it out of curiosity.

 

[seeking_brilliance]

2 hours ago, Zigzag Idiot said:

Exuberance could also be somewhat egoic in attitude ,

Well, even if so... Builds character ?

[Zigzag Idiot]

Chemical Messages
by Dr. Jim Rosen
©2021 Dr. Jim Rosen
 

    First they get you to believe that depression is caused by a chemical imbalance.  Then they work on you to think the same about anxiety.  But keep in mind that "they" are multi-billion dollar drug corporations and they want you to buy their products for the rest of your life.  They don't want you to actually overcome and conquer your problems, which requires you to untangle the messes in your life.  If you buy into their messages that it's all chemical, then you buy into the belief that you have no control over your own life.

    You may notice that you feel somewhat better after you take a particular chemical, but that doesn't mean you are deficient in that chemical or that your require it for your well being.  Consider that lots of people claim to feel better after they have a few drinks or smoke a cigarette.

    The pharmaceutical companies keep expanding into other areas to increase their wealth.  So don't be surprised if they try to get you to believe that even your self-esteem is a chemical issue.

    You are not a victim.  Nor are you a prisoner.  You have the power to choose, and you can choose to really become healthier.

[Zigzag Idiot]

                                                           Meditation Retreat Campground

I’m thinking more about opening a meditation retreat campground. I live on a rather unique 9 acre wooded hill. No Quad or dirt bike enthusiasts and no beer drinking hell raisers will be allowed. No loud or noisy people or groups, I’m not going to coordinate anything practice wise or baby sit people.  Just simply provide a fairly peaceful environment. That’s roughy the plan for now. Maybe 6 campsites and possibly the loft in my house every now and then. Not sure though. I need to make a little income and I think it might work ok. A friend told me about hippie camp grounds that are scattered around the country and advertised. I might find an advertisement venue there or maybe more directly with people who are seriously into meditation and would like to do an intensive meditation for a few days in a quiet country setting. My plans will probably change a few times in the process.

Over this past winter I’ve been clearing the brush and briar thickets out and it’s starting to look nice. There are a lot of wild vines growing up from the ground into the trees that I’ve left. I’m ready for everything to green up. I think it’s going to look pretty cool.

 

Edited March 30, 2021 by Zigzag Idiot
Correct some phrasing. I was really sleepy last night typing it out. There’s still probably typo’s and run-on sentences. That’s seems to be my m.o.

[Zigzag Idiot]

Be non-ideological Leo advises in his latest video addressing some points concerning whether or not actualized.org could be considered a cult. So watch it and decide for yourself.

I began this journal about 2 1/2 years ago. The following quote from the work of A.H.Almaas was where I got my signature phrase of being a Universal heretic. It was included in one of my first entries in this journal. It’s not only profound but hilarious when Almaas also writes “Most of us don’t have the nerve to lose our minds.” ? 

From the beginning I observed parallels between Leo’s work and Almaas’ Diamond Approach Teaching. To be non-ideological is very similar to the notion of being a universal heretic.

 

This is Almaas-

We Have to Risk the Aloneness and the Terror of Being Totally on Our Own

To have a free mind is to be a universal heretic. You don’t believe in the ultimate reality of any concept. You can assume any belief you find useful and attractive, but you don’t need to hold on to any of it. Without being captured by your beliefs, you are strong enough and confident enough to throw away any and all beliefs and perspectives, each and every philosophy and story. You can stand totally alone, completely independent of all that comes through the mind, through time and space. This station of realization is difficult and rare. Most of us don’t have the nerve to lose our minds. Although terrifying, it is necessary for true freedom. We have to risk that we may be wrong. We have to risk the aloneness and the terror of being totally on our own. We have to risk cutting all of our supports, burning all of our bridges, destroying all of our boats. They are all ultimately and fundamentally concepts that come from hearsay or, at best, from our own past experiences. Even the concepts and knowledge that have come from our own immediate experiences cannot be relied on. That knowledge is like Buddha’s words—old, unless corroborated in this moment. Maybe a week ago you had an experience of realization, but how do you know that will be the same today? Who said that God won’t change or that self-realization should continue being the same today? In other words, we cannot hold on to any concept past our direct experience of it; otherwise, what we’re doing is believing a story. Whether someone else’s or our own, a story is a story, not true reality here and now. To be truly independent and autonomous, we need to be free from the concepts acquired from others as well as our own past experiences.

Diamond Heart Book Five, pg. 63

Back to Zigzag Idiot paraphrasing someone somewhere-

To be free from narrative consciousness is a big thing. It means no more compulsive thinking. It begins with recognition of a state change. Recognizing you’ve parked in a free space of inner quiet. Realizing you can add your own spiritual coin to the parking meter. You earn spiritual coin by working on yourself instead of pointing the finger at others. To work on oneself means you can forgive others because you realize your own bullshit but it stops going that far. There is no forgiveness necessary because understanding intervenes and as a result, you understand. In understanding is peace. The human condition is one of a strange forgetting and the resultant amnesia and confusion which arrives and invites in identification and projections and all that stuff. You can use light heartedness to put a stick in the spokes of spinning monkey mind but you have to remember. Most everyone’s state of being is in constant flux.

[Zigzag Idiot]

I’ve already said that I rightly belong within some category of rednecks and there is a wide variety of categories. The same goes with Academics. Leo raked Academics in general over the coals pretty good in his last video. I put in that little preamble/disclaimer, what ever it is, so I could take the opportunity to pile on. 
In his book Higher Being Bodies, Ocke de Boer discuses the differing views of two well known Dutch Scientists. One a cardiologist and the others neurologist. When the neurologist starts making fun of the cardiologist for stating that consciousness can be seen apart from the brain and he begins to comment on spirituality, Ocke says he begins to embody a strange mixture of arrogance and humbleness— so often to be found in academics. That little quote really stuck with me. Probably because I got a big chuckle out of it

This is the section of the book where Ocke is discussing the scale of Being. Human #4 is someone who has balanced their centers and is awoke somewhat.Human #4 knows that they are in Plato’s cave. This is a big achievement. Humans #1, #2, and #3 are lopsided in one of the centers, instinctual, emotional, or intellectual. Anyone who is awakened, which are humans #5 #6, and #7 knows that real intelligence means the position of a phenomenon in the scale of Being, and the influences to which this phenomenon is open in relation to higher worlds. They also know that they have to hide, if they don’t want to be pecked to death.

For anyone who has studied Gurdjieff or the Fourth Way, I highly recommend Ocke de Boers two books. Higher Being Bodies and Two Souls. 
If you haven’t already studied Gurdjieff’s Works, I don’t think you’ll get much from them. 

I have to confess though that I’m somewhere between believing and knowing

Some of the phenomena I know, but not all.

 

[Zigzag Idiot]

I wished I had copied the entry I made on the forum about my numerology thinking I was in my journal. I hid it before thinking to copy and paste it here.
I recently said in a conversation here on the forum that I no longer take numerology as a belief system but I give room for there to be a transrational connection by a few rare mystics. I’ve always been one to be carried away in imagination. I was teased by family years ago when as a second grader my report card stated that I spent too much time daydreaming!
The numerology based on my full name. 

I don’t know about super consciousness or  illumination but the part about being lured to excesses,,,,  I’ve got that covered pretty good.

As stated earlier in this journal, I still hear a chorus of crickets almost continually. This began back in about 2017 and I know it sounds weird but it is what it is. I ran into this website about a year after this phenomena began.

http://humanityhealing.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/The-Cerebellum-and-the-Alta-Major.pdf

 

[Zigzag Idiot]

Developing fully the intellectual part of the emotional center (King of Hearts) is not easy nor done overnight. Symptomatic is the ability to DIRECT one’s attention and not have it DRAWN away. Attention that’s not under one’s control results in reacting instead of responding. Remember the Queen of Hearts? In high emotion she said, off with their heads. The King of hearts followed behind granting pardons. Male or female, it makes no difference. King of hearts is a station, not necessarily a state of consciousness. King of hearts has equanimity.

Case in point, me. Still working at it. Still not 100%.

[Zigzag Idiot]

Ken Wilber described psychological and spiritual development as pertaining to one line of development in a human being. The capacity for disinterested awareness. Another way of saying witness consciousness. First comes developing a healthy self esteem. Then realize that what also appeared in the process is self Importance. Castaneda called it a 3000 headed monster. I think women have the advantage in dealing with this. Men, by their nature go around all proud and puffed up with their feelings turned off. Having a broken heart can slay the monster. But, first things first.

[Zigzag Idiot]

The person who introduced me to most of the Fourth Way Ideas was an astrologer and someone whom I shared, what appeared to me as, a number of amazing synchronicities. This was about 2003. He also pointed me in the direction of the writings of AH Almaas. In the last few years I found out he was an acquaintance and peer of the poet and author, Red Hawk. I’ve talked to this person maybe 4-6 times since 2003. He is courteous but has dropped little hints that I later unfold as jabs to my foolishness and also my self importance. He has acted like he suffers my presence and so I’ve refrained from bothering him anymore even though he just lives a one hour drive away.

Sometimes I ponder how I seem to be Hameed Almaas’ main proponent here on the forum at actualized.org. Not only am I just a rogue student of the Diamond Approach Teaching but a self proclaimed Idiot as well. What could be more depressing for a man of such knowledge? 
Naturally I think most everyone here is a little stupid for at least not acknowledging the brilliance of his online glossary. https://www.diamondapproach.org/glossary/refinery_phrases/actualization. I just got this in my email today. https://online.diamondapproach.org/super-charged-psychological-work/?utm_source=ontraport&utm_campaign=eNews&utm_medium=email&utm_term=eNews&utm_content=Apr21&0= 
It will be overlooked and under appreciated I’m pretty sure. Like always.

Spiritual learning and Wisdom lineages can really be weird sometimes.