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Arhattobe

The Story of the Buddha and The non dual Deva

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I’ll post the relevant part of the sutta called

”Brahma-nimantanika Sutta” and then expand upon it.

The Blessed One said: "On one occasion recently I was staying in Ukkattha in the Subhaga forest at the root of a royal sala tree. Now on that occasion an evil viewpoint had arisen to Baka-Brahma: 'This is constant. This is permanent. This is eternal. This is total. This is not subject to falling away — for this does not take birth, does not age, does not die, does not fall away, does not reappear.[1]And there is no other, higher escape.'

"So I — having known with my awareness the train of thought in Baka Brahma's awareness — as a strong man would extend his flexed arm or flex his extended arm, vanished into the root of the royal sala tree in the Subhaga forest in Ukkattha and appeared in that brahma world. Baka Brahma saw me coming in the distance and, on seeing me, said, 'Come, good sir. You are well-come, good sir. It has been long, good sir, since you arranged to come here — for this, good sir, is constant. This is permanent. This is eternal. This is total. This is not subject to falling away — for here one does not take birth, does not age, does not die, does not fall away, does not reappear. And there is no other, higher escape.'

"When this was said, I told Baka Brahma, 'How immersed in ignorance is Baka Brahma! How immersed in ignorance is Baka Brahma!  — in that what is actually inconstant he calls "constant." What is actually impermanent he calls "permanent." What is actually non-eternal he calls "eternal." What is actually partial he calls "total." What is actually subject to falling away he calls "not subject to falling away." Where one takes birth, ages, dies, falls away, and reappears, he says, "For here one does not take birth, does not age, does not die, does not fall away, does not reappear." And there being another, higher escape, he says, "There is no other, higher escape."'

 

The 10 fetters of Buddhism exist in all who are not yet awakened. Awakening merely gets rid of the first. Body identification.

However, with the body identification seen through. As long as one’s fetters and karmic body remain. Whether one is in an awakened state or not. The energies of most awakened  is still tethered to the body. The denial of this is as the Buddha said an “evil viewpoint”, a product of mara. The ego. Attempting to escape what it is clearly bound by. Pretending one has graduated from Harvard when one is in elementary school.

Worse are those with half baked glimpses saying the same thing when they aren’t even awake. Mere talking points and belief systems that deny being beliefs. A individuated man, trapped in body identification denying his reality. 

This sort of delusion is not a good foundation for growth. This sort of self deceit will slow down one’s progress.

Awakening is good, but karmic annihilation of all tendencies, of all that tethers is to a body to an individual, who may or may not experience non duality is the point of the true path. The pure dharma. 

That comes about with a holistic approach. The 8 fold noble path. Seek growth, not escape. Seek to learn not to display knowledge or to teach. 

 

Good luck

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