To Climb The Self-development Ladder, Or To Jump The Gun To Enlightenment

[JevinR]

Should one be baby-stepping from lower conscious things such as relationships, or jump the gun to enlightenment? One excuse I find myself saying a lot when thinking about what is perceived as more "shallow" things is that I have no need for such things, but on the other-hand this could be thought as an excuse or a form procrastination. As mooji had said "This is a human experience, whether you want to experience things or not, you will experience it". So should we gain the knowledge and wisdom of experiencing these things, and make a more gradual staircase to enlightenment, or just immerse in it head-on?

Edited April 10, 2016 by JevinR

[charlie2dogs]

I would like to ask you what would be your plan for jumping the gun to enlightenment, just how would you manage that.

[JevinR]

1. @charlie2dogs Sell all your material possessions 
2.  move to middle-eastern china/india
3. live off leaves and spring water and sht
4. tell the yogis your story so they know you're dead -fcking serious
5. commit your entire life under their teachings, as "You are only as good as your master".

 

Edited April 10, 2016 by JevinR

[charlie2dogs]

1 hour ago, JevinR said:

1. @charlie2dogs Sell all your material possessions 
2.  move to middle-eastern china/india
3. live off leaves and spring water and sht
4. tell the yogis your story so they know you're dead -fcking serious
5. commit your entire life under their teachings, as "You are only as good as your master".

 

hahahahhaha

[JevinR]

@charlie2dogs How is that funny? How else do you get to enlightenment? You commit your life to it. FUCK now I'm turning into some kind of scientific religious person and disregarding enlightenment work, but dammit I don't know what the truth is. Also what qualification do you have to know everything?

Edited April 10, 2016 by JevinR

[charlie2dogs]

13 minutes ago, JevinR said:

@charlie2dogs How is that funny? How else do you get to enlightenment? You commit your life to it. FUCK now I'm turning into some kind of scientific religious person and disregarding enlightenment work, but dammit I don't know what the truth is. Also what qualification do you have to know everything?

Jevin, you can become self realized right where you are, you dont have to give up everything, save the plane fare to india, you can live life as a self realized being and it isnt boring, it brings joy, peace, and security and puts the identity and ego in the back seat so that you can live life without creating consequences of a lot of pain and misery for yourself and others.  I have several post that talks about becoming self realized and things you can do the help that happen.

[Leo Gura]

6 hours ago, JevinR said:

1. @charlie2dogs Sell all your material possessions 
2.  move to middle-eastern china/india
3. live off leaves and spring water and sht
4. tell the yogis your story so they know you're dead -fcking serious
5. commit your entire life under their teachings, as "You are only as good as your master".

 

That's not really necessary.

If you want to get enlightened, you can do it without changing your environment at all. In fact, plans to make drastic environmental changes are often just a distraction of the ego.

In the end, it will all boil down to you sitting in a quite room facing the agony of not knowing yourself.

No guru can save you from that.

Muster the self-discipline to sit and look now. You'll have to no matter what. The only question is how many years you'll waste with spiritual frippery before you throw all your gurus under the bus and sit.