A critique of Jordan Peterson

[daniel695]

here is a video by daniel Mackler, he goes deep on his rule #5 of the book 12 rules for life : Do not let your children do anything that makes you dislike them. also how Jordan Peterson misunderstands just how much kids are affected by childhood trauma and its not all nature or genetics.

 

[Eric Tarpall]

I skipped that chapter because I don't have kids. I think you should let kids do whatever they want. Let them make lots of mistakes so they can learn from it. And learn to make their own decisions.

[Matt8800]

@daniel695 Children that socialize in ways that cause them to become repulsive to others tend to grow up to be adults that socialize with others in ways that repulse others.

Life is not kind to repulsive people.

[SgtPepper]

3 hours ago, Matt8800 said:

@daniel695 Children that socialize in ways that cause them to become repulsive to others tend to grow up to be adults that socialize with others in ways that repulse others.

Life is not kind to repulsive people.

This was pretty much JP's point in that chapter.

[d0ornokey]

My parents wanted me to get a job, go to school for more college, marry someone of my own race, follow the rules of our tradition, believe in God, listen to certain music, eat certain foods, do certain major in school, have a certain work ethic etc. 

It was painful and challenging to rebel against all of those lol. They disliked me for when I rebelled against them

It's really important to give your kid freedom and to see your own ignorance. you need to trust your kid, resulting him in trusting himself

My belief is that as a parent, you should offer your opinion, but let your child make his own choices. 

 

My dad compared me to an alcoholic and he's just trying to sober me down, and he doesn't know where the line is to draw. If I was in his position and I wanted my child to make certain decisions in attempt to save his future, I would offer my opinion, but not force it upon him. I'd trust him that he will figure it out eventually, giving him the tools to make it out of whatever situation that he ends up in, and offering my support when he needs it. 

 

but yeah, that law isn't a good law imo

[SgtPepper]

JP is talking about those parents who let their kids pull tantrum behavior on them in public. 

Not kids who are trying to find themselves through expression. 

edit:

He even has a separate chapter discussing how we should let kids be kids, In chapter 12 (or 11) I believe is titled, let kids skateboard.

Edited December 1, 2018 by SgtPepper

[martins name]

4 hours ago, Matt8800 said:

Children that socialize in ways that cause them to become repulsive to others tend to grow up to be adults that socialize with others in ways that repulse others.

Life is not kind to repulsive people.

This is true but as the guy in the video points out, if you then use that to justify blindly following the role that 'if your child triggers a negative emotion in you it must be something wrong with the child' then that's not good. Both make good points. The right way to go about this is to not use the rule blindly but to make finer distinctions. Which of the child's behaviors will make others dislike him, and which behaviors are only triggering to your own shadow(or "hidden away traumas" as the guy put it)?

[daniel695]

7 hours ago, Matt8800 said:

Life is not kind to repulsive people.

@Matt8800 what do you mean by that?

7 hours ago, Matt8800 said:

Children that socialize in ways that cause them to become repulsive to others tend to grow up to be adults that socialize with others in ways that repulse others.

if you find someone repulsive its most likely got to do something with you rather then the person you find repulsive.

[RichardY]

Kind of closing the barn door, after the horse has bolted.