MASSIVE Hallucination

[Highest]

1 minute ago, Jack River said:

YOU did say it...because YOU are all there is?

Ultimately speaking, yes. The Apsolute=I, I=the Apsolute. 

[Jack River]

Just now, Highest said:

Ultimately speaking, yes. The Apsolute=I, I=the Apsolute. 

All I experience is I ?

[Highest]

1 minute ago, Jack River said:

All I experience is I ?

Of course, so do I ?

[Nahm]

4 hours ago, Tausif Ahmed said:

speaking from an atheist's perspective how would you convince an atheist or rationalist that spiritual experiences are not hallucinations or illusions...?

Hey, welcome to forum.

If there is one ‘theologian’ which needs no convincing, it is the rational atheist. As a materialist, the magnitude of suffering from their own beliefs is all the convincing necessary, albeit a slow painful path. 

[tedens]

@cetus56 we are behaving same as that birds while glimpsing

 

[Jack River]

4 minutes ago, Nahm said:

Hey, welcome to forum.

If there is one ‘theologian’ which needs no convincing, it is the rational atheist. As a materialist, the magnitude of suffering from their own beliefs is all the convincing necessary, albeit a slow painful path. 

Fosho..

Belief and disbelief are one and the same. Both stem from one single belief..I am limited/fleeting. 

Edited March 22, 2019 by Jack River

[cetus]

3 minutes ago, tedens said:

@cetus56 we are behaving same as that birds while glimpsing

 

@tedens So true.

[Highest]

8 minutes ago, Nahm said:

Hey, welcome to forum.

If there is one ‘theologian’ which needs no convincing, it is the rational atheist. As a materialist, the magnitude of suffering from their own beliefs is all the convincing necessary, albeit a slow painful path. 

Osho said something like this about materialists ?

[cetus]

48 minutes ago, Shin said:

Not the A word

@Shin I said 10,000 words couldn't describe it. I Kept it to 9, 999 .

[ivankiss]

Paradigms might not be the biggest concern or obstacle.

No matter which paradigm you're in; your real issue is identification. Attachment.

 

[Jack River]

We have to show how the materialists perspective is an illusion/hallucination and that spiritual experience is the reality to those illusions/hallucinations. Which is quite simple and obvious to one who isn’t to scared?

[Shin]

18 minutes ago, cetus56 said:

@Shin I said 10,000 words couldn't describe it. I Kept it to 9, 999 .

As long as you don't say the D word ?

[now is forever]

7 hours ago, Jack River said:

We have to show how the materialists perspective is an illusion/hallucination and that spiritual experience is the reality to those illusions/hallucinations. Which is quite simple and obvious to one who isn’t to scared?

materializing paterializing who knows still what is what? i would say there is no materialism it has been paterialized all the time ?

for osho fosho 

Edited March 23, 2019 by now is forever

[WelcometoReality]

 

On 2018-11-30 at 1:30 PM, ivankiss said:

What is your hallucination? Share the visions and sensations.

Falling, falling, falling away out of this hallucination. Desperately trying to grab ahold of anything to stop falling into nothing.

[now is forever]

7 minutes ago, WelcometoReality said:

 

Falling, falling, falling away out of this hallucination. Desperately trying to grab ahold of anything to stop falling into nothing.

feel embraced by nothing.

[WelcometoReality]

48 minutes ago, now is forever said:

feel embraced by nothing.

 

[Kensho]

20 hours ago, Tausif Ahmed said:

I mean speaking from an atheist's perspective how would you convince an atheist or rationalist that spiritual experiences are not hallucinations or illusions...?

How would you convince a blind person that the sky is blue?

[Pouya]

@Tausif Ahmed he has a enlightenment playlist. Videos from like 3 years ago but still a great place to start. I started there when i was introduced to actualized.org

If you want to go deeper, you need to find out that rationalism is an idea and embrace not knowing and being absolutely clueless about everything, to truly experience it as it is.

[Pouya]

@ivankiss is there anything "outside" hallucinations?

Is it all illusion? 

If infinity is all possible, is it possible to go beyond impossible?

[Pouya]

@Kensho by giving the blind an eye to see the sky