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Are the percentages in Spiral Dynamics accurate?

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So like most of you probably I also got addicted to SD :)) most of the stages make sense to me and are clear, except Red and Green. Now with red it's maybe cuz I just haven't researched it enough and the examples of it are more in history and its somewhat rare today. Anyway stage Green seems very hard for me to count in society. According to SD 10% of the world is at stage Green. Now 10% of the world population is all of west Europe and North America combined and for sure all of that people being Green is not the case, in the rest of the world I think people are mostly in Blue and Orange. I personally think Stage Green is the least rigid stage (I can only think of real hippies, vegans, SJW's and ppl like that as rigid Green which is at best a few percent) and since its usually mixed alot with yellow and orange its harder to point it out. Or if not then Green is the stage where it has few extremes in it (the real hippies) and the rest mostly light green (young people who like to chill with weed after work/study and are actually in touch with other cultures). There's also the nice elderly people which are kind and honest (alot of them here in Europe) which seem to be counted as green perhaps. Anyway this seems abit confusing to me and maybe a discussion about it will make the picture clear. Do you think the percentages are a very rough estimate in SD or actually seem accurate? 

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Worldwide percentages are not as important as local percentages.

For example, the average per capita worldwide salary is extremely low because certain underdeveloped countries are extremely underdeveloped yet have large populations. So a number like average per capita worldwide salary isn't a useful statistic.

A much more useful statistic is the average salary in your neighborhood. That actually tells you something.

In 1st world countries the percentage of stage Green is significantly more than 10%.

Also keep in mind that the higher the stage the more impact it has culturally, the less of it is needed. Even 1% Yellow or 0.1% Turquoise has a massive disproportional impact on the world. Because these people tend to be leaders and closer to positions of influence and power.

Think of the impact of someone like Jesus, The Buddha, MLK, Gandhi, etc. You don't need 100 million Jesuses (Jesii?) to change the world.


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3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Also keep in mind that the higher the stage the more impact it has culturally, the less of it is needed. Even 1% Yellow or 0.1% Turquoise has a massive disproportional impact on the world. Because these people tend to be leaders and closer to positions of influence and power.

Think of the impact of someone like Jesus, The Buddha, MLK, Gandhi, etc. You don't need 100 million Jesuses (Jesii?) to change the world.

What about all the Turquoise people that are content with a smaller impact? The Zen masters and sages who instead stay in their hut (metaphorically speaking).

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