What's (Egoic Enlightenment) ???

[Tony 845]

I've heard @Hellspeed talk about this a few times, again not regular.Enlightenment but (Egoic Enlightent) ???

[SoonHei]

@Tony 845 it's when the illusiory self becomes trapped and thinks it got enlightened... I suppose mostly by knowing and learning various concepts

 

In other words, it's not true Enlightenment...

[Tony 845]

@SoonHei anyone main stream enlightend that this has happend to???? Like a big name within the community? 

[SoonHei]

@Tony 845 ummm

Im sure there maybe quite a few. But i don't know of any myself...

 

Also, it's important to note, that the Enlightened-ego may not himself know that they are in this trap.

 

It is a trap afterall...

 

There are also those who may fake it... That they are Enlightened... That's different.

 

 

[pluto]

Leoic Enlightenment

[ShugendoRa]

You think your the one who is enlightened which in reality you are nothing at all. Your ego likes to attach to anything it experiences and make a meaning out of it. Which in reality enlightment is no reality. 

[Shin]

It's when you forget that the map is not the territory after having a mystical experience, or during one.

That's the best case scenarios though ?

[XYZ]

Egoic Enlightenment 

This picture comes to awareness.

[Hellspeed]

Enlightenment is beyond the light, beyond the right side. Beyond concepts. Is the drop of all knowledge, pure bliss, pure being, pure action in the present moment. 

Is similar to the feeling when you hit the wall and trespass it. When you running, and after 1 h the pain is unbearable, then you go with the pain and after 30 min more you could run 3h more, I'm talking about that state. 

PURE FREEDOM

Edited November 24, 2018 by Hellspeed

[Tony 845]

@Hellspeed beautifully said ?

[DrewNows]

@Hellspeedwait you just explained enlightenment...how about egoic??? Using an idea of enlightenment to conceptualize exactly that which should be but can’t be known 

what is it which we seek so illusory until realized is nothing at all 

carry those who’s minds claim to be that which cannot be but believe it is so...

[Hellspeed]

5 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

No Ego is only one horn of the paradox of life.  The other horn of the paradox of life is Ego.  

Now, update that Ego of your's Maynor  and let's talk practicality. Blessings from your own heart!

[Hellspeed]

8 minutes ago, DrewNows said:

@Hellspeedwait you just explained enlightenment...how about egoic??? Using an idea of enlightenment to conceptualize exactly that which should be but can’t be known 

what is it which we seek so illusory until realized is nothing at all 

carry those who’s minds claim to be that which cannot be but believe it is so...

Egoic Enlightenment is basically those who speak much, teach much, write much, but cannot sing (i speak about singing, singer, etc). And there are those who can sing, but only from the right side. 

[Tony 845]

@Hellspeed explain both sides, deeply please ??? @Leo Gura

Edited November 24, 2018 by Tony 845

[Hellspeed]

Just now, Tony 845 said:

@Hellspeed explain both sides, deeply please ???

In the womb we are enlightened. Once we reach outside we crave for connection. 

It is up to us to find our legs or things get really messy sticking with images, idols, traps, head. 

[DrewNows]

1 minute ago, Hellspeed said:

Egoic Enlightenment is basically those who speak much, teach much, write much, but cannot sing (i speak about singing, singer, etc). And there are those who can sing, but only from the right side.

You’re saying they can’t walk the walk but they can talk the talk?  

is egoic enlightenment always unknown to be fake? 

Is it really a trap or does one simply take this path because of conditioning and may still bring about freedom without resistance? 

[Hellspeed]

1 minute ago, DrewNows said:

You’re saying they can’t walk the walk but they can talk the talk?  

is egoic enlightenment always unknown to be fake? 

Is it really a trap or does one simply take this path because of conditioning and may still bring about freedom without resistance? 

Egoic Enlightenment is an enlightened state but without Muladhara and Anahata in sync. 

[DrewNows]

2 minutes ago, Hellspeed said:

Egoic Enlightenment is an enlightened state but without Muladhara and Anahata in sync. 

For those not familiar with this such as myself...how would you describe it. 

Like throw away all the concepts which cannot be understood without going into that practice/interpretation 

Edited November 24, 2018 by DrewNows

[Tony 845]

@Hellspeed how do we get them in sync sir? 

[Hellspeed]

A true awakened master is beyond turquoise and gold. Has the ability to heal him/herself and others with energy. Otherwise is just a belief. The Egoic have contributed tremendously on the concept side of the matter, I'll give you that. But in a true awakening state one has no need to read anymore per example, all come to him/her with intention, knows how Akasha works and everything. Let's go into the unknown, he/she does not know!, and then all comes back.