Science can point towards the idea of everything being one and interconnected.

[lmfao]

Even if you don't believe in the following perspective, entertain a Newtonian world view ( sometimes called "newtonianism") or a better way of phrasing it might be to say that I'm asking you to just entertain certain aspects of Newtonianism. I think that certain aspects of Newtonianism and science as a whole are pointers towards a wholistic, SD stage turquoise view of the world. My explanation might be long winded but I'm just putting it out there to try give my overall point some weight. 

Imagine the universe to be an amalgamation of matter [matter has recently been discovered to be a form/expression of energy] and energy (kinetic energy, potential energies,"light energy", etc) shuffling through space and time. Not only have matter and energy been found to be connected (e.g. Increasing kinetic energy of an object increases the objects mass), but the motion of matter through space has an impact on the rate of change of time. E.g. People moving quicker will have time move more slowly for them relative to people not moving so quickly.

Consider the three natural sciences: biology, chemistry and physics. If we are being reductionist we can say that biology is the obersevation and study of complex phenomenon in the realm of chemistry (cuz humans are just made out of atoms and energy), chemistry is the obersevation and study of some of the complex phenomena in physics, and physics is an attempt to observe the natural laws governing reality. In simpler terms: biology is chemistry and chemistry is physics. Everything is physics from this point of view. 

Suppose that there exists these laws of physics. Everything is an expression of these laws, and everything has some sort of relationship with every other thing. Another way for you to consider interconnectedness, notice how whenever we write these physics equations, a single variable (e.g. The algebraic letter "x" that we write in an equation is a variable) is completely defined by a number of other variables. E. G. E=mc^(2), F=Gmm/r^(2). Even if the existence of physics equations are formed by creating dualities in reality these equations are still pointing towards the universe just being a single entity composed of a vast number of interconnected parts, and these parts have no meaning and substance to them in the absence of every single other part in this single system. How else could you create these equations? 

It's a physicists dream that there exists a hypothetical equation describing the exact state of the universe, with this equation needing the input of every single conceivable variable. Because every single variable is important. 

 

 

The atoms in the cup in front of me has create a gravitational field which extends to infinity in every single direction. The EXACT, EXACT position of every single tiny, tiny particle of mass in this massive, massive universe plays a role in determining the exact state of this universe. All these trillions of objects have their gravitational fields interact with each other and we get a resultant, impossible to model, single gravitational field across the entire universe. Not only are there gravitational fields. Electric fields, electromagnetic fields and there's also the strong nuclear force fields and weak nuclear force fields. Each of these fields are as complex and amazing in determining the exact state of the universe as gravitational fields.

So looking at science, we can get an awe inspiring view of reality. We have a chaotic, complex universe in which everything is trading information (e.G. trading information through the various force fields I mentioned earlier) with every other thing and every single thing only has meaning and definition relative to every other thing. You as a human are constantly being bombarded with information and data from the universe around you, and this information and data becomes you. 

 

 

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You don't have to read this second section here, it's just a random tangent. Read if you're interested in physics. I'm finding it extremely hard to articulate what I'm thinking here with the right words because converting images and intuition to words is very difficult sometimes. 

In my second paragraph I used the phrase "rate of change of time" which some of you would have noticed something funny about. I think that physicists don't phrase it the way I do but I think that anyone familiar with calculus will know what funny thing I'm curious about. You'll be wondering, rate of change of time with respect to what variable exactly? When we use the phrase "rate of change of x" we are usually referring to the derivative of x with respect to time. But time itself is the variable we are trying to see the "rate of change" of. 

Let's suppose that I'm moving super fast and you're moving super slow. For every single second that passes for me, two seconds passes for you. What I'm extremely curiuos is, what is the thread that connects these two situations? If one second passes for me, two seconds passes for you. There is a correspondence between us. I wonder if this points towards time being nested inside of some higher variable and it is this higher variables which can allow the simulatenous existence of two different situations which have time flowing differently.

Like ponder, how is it that time is flowing differently? The rate of flow of some variable is usually measured by using time. E.g. Velocity is the rate of change of displacement with respect to time. The rate of change of most variables is taken with respect to time, so I wonder how it is that we can find the rate of change of time itself. 

Fuck, this is hard to word. 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 21, 2018 by lmfao

[Outer]

A: "We met back with our trail guide. He's taking us to meet a very special master. I've been hoping to meet him for some time. People say he's on the final leg of the journey. Walking the last mile, to final Enlightenment."

B: "No one's there, gate's locked"

A: "It's a very intense stage of the practice, requiring his total energy and concentration, so he rarely accepts visitors."

C: "You coming here shows our connection."

  "Without this natural connection..."

  "You'd have never come here."

  "People need this connection to meet."

  "If I didn't open my gate,"

  "You'd have just waited there."

  "Wouldn't that have meant that we don't have this connection?"

  "We plant seeds in the past."

  "It's the reason we meet up today."

   "Do you want some tea?"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[lmfao]

@Outer I liked that video, old people can be cute sometimes lol

Edit: You know, I was supposed to be meditating just now but whilst trying to meditate my mind just got randomly obsessed with a thought I had about science and so I just has had the uncontrollable urge to type all this shit LOL. 

Edited November 21, 2018 by lmfao

[Leo Gura]

Of course science has shown centuries ago that all is interconnected, even long before quantum mechanics.

The issue is that it does not fit the modern atheist paradigm, so it is all conveniently forgotten about.

Newton was a deist.

[Strikr]

1 hour ago, lmfao said:

@Outer I liked that video, old people can be cute sometimes lol

Edit: You know, I was supposed to be meditating just now but whilst trying to meditate my mind just got randomly obsessed with a thought I had about science and so I just has had the uncontrollable urge to type all this shit LOL. 

for me to read it.

INTERCONNECTEDNESS proof ! will save your topic in save/folder, I have the "urge" aswell that I'll need to read this again.

Edited November 21, 2018 by Strikr

[SoonHei]

@lmfao about the tangent on time.

 

Think of reality as structure.

Think of time as a physical aspect of it.

There is no magical variable of time which can be denoted by the tick tock of a clock

Think of time as the "frame rate" of Reality

 

Just like when recording a video... 30fps, 60fps etc

 

For someone moving thru quickly within reality, they jump "ahead" of someone stationary who they were with in the same frame of reality.

 

Now when you travel really fast, you arrive into the future technically...

 

Time for you ticked slower but you moved ahead into the future as you were moving thru reality as it were. Since Reality is a giant infinite structure. The person who was at rest will also be there in the future that you move into, However time will have changed for them at their regular rate and they would now be older than you as special relativity shows

 

For the most.part, just like you said, hard to put into words... But i have a visual seeing and understanding of this structure of reality.

[Rilles]

If reality wasnt one how could you even have a you and other... For something to be two there has to be something to be separated... its just basic logic... now to directly experience that is another matter.

[Flammable]

9 hours ago, lmfao said:

Like ponder, how is it that time is flowing differently? The rate of flow of some variable is usually measured by using time. E.g. Velocity is the rate of change of displacement with respect to time. The rate of change of most variables is taken with respect to time, so I wonder how it is that we can find the rate of change of time itself. 

Fuck, this is hard to word. 

Maybe one day everything will refer to consciousness rather than time in terms of calculations. Your point here is quite cool, I resonated with it. I can see where you are going.

But yeah, the relative time phenomena should be happening within a meta-entity which would be reality I suppose - just quite hard to describe mathematically what that is.

Edited November 21, 2018 by Flammable

[Forestluv]

8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Of course science has shown centuries ago that all is interconnected, even long before quantum mechanics.

The issue is that it does not fit the modern atheist paradigm, so it is all conveniently forgotten about.

Newton was a deist.

It seems science is currently Orange-centered. As we evolve up the spiral, I’m looking forward to the emergence of Green science and Yellow science to become mainstream. 

[lmfao]

@Leo Gura

8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Of course science has shown centuries ago that all is interconnected, even long before quantum mechanics.

The issue is that it does not fit the modern atheist paradigm, so it is all conveniently forgotten about.

Newton was a deist.

Yeah boi

@Strikr you flatter me

@SoonHei I like your way of thinking

 

3 hours ago, Rilles said:

 now to directly experience that is another matter.

@Rilles spot on dude

@Flammable at least you get what I mean. You articulated it well when you said time is happening in a meta-entity.