Library of Babel / Infinite Intelligent - No big feat?

[SoonHei]

not sure how many of you have heard of library of babel

"The Library of Babel" (Spanish: La biblioteca de Babel) is a short story by Argentine author and librarian Jorge Luis Borges (1899–1986), conceiving of a universe in the form of a vast library containing all possible 410-page books of a certain format and character set. (from wiki)

 

someone a couple of years ago made a website in which you can search a random string of words or a conversation which you may have had a few minutes ago and it will exist somewhere in the vast database which contains all of possible things which can be said

 

here's the website: https://libraryofbabel.info/

 

anyways. so let's say someone comes up with a huge medical breakthrough which is summarized a single page

 

those exact words would already be somewhere in this infinte-esq database... it will be random words/strings generated to have created that particular page. but the fact remaning, it exists

theoratically, the cure for cancer exists in the database, just needs to be found...

but there are also a billion+ "cures for cancer" which exists but aren't correct per say...

 

so applying this concept to reality as a whole

how exactly is it "intelligent" if it's just the set of all possible sets

i mean, it is INFINTE.. so it's large enough to include this particular moment and a question about it

 

but what's the "intelligence"

isn't it really, "no intelligence" but just randomized/meaningless ISNESS which we find and assign meaning to (which is also a part of it) but from the Abolsute view, it all just is...

 

the fact that ISNESS of it exists, that's beyond understanding and one cannot ask the HOW

but i am just trying to understand that the infinte intelligence Leo refers to... is that intelligence in a unconventional use of that word when applied to reality?

 

@Leo Gura @winterknight

 

 

[Rilles]

yes! love that story! to me it signifies the pointless search for knowledge and information. Borges is THE author to read if you want a taste of some non-dual/mindfuckery type of writing.  

I was just thinking about Borges, what a synchronicity   

Edited November 14, 2018 by Rilles

[Leo Gura]

@SoonHei That's what I used to think until I discovered that no, it is not random, it is infinitely intelligent.

This cannot be understood in your present state of consciousnsess -- like, at all. It doesn't make sense to the linear logical mind. There is little sense trying to think this through. You must do intense practices or psychedelics to get it.

[SoonHei]

@Leo Gura hmmmm.

I am okay to take your word for it.

I know I have to do the work and all to see it

 

But for now. It's good to know it's not just plain dump permutations

 

Another thing. When you understand reality is not material, then it's easy to approximate the intelligence

 

I recall leo has said in his video that a particular leaf on the ground has an infinite causal chain that puts it exactly in that spot on the ground at that exact time in that exact shape and configuration etc

 

And not only in the dimension of time but zoomed-in/out in a fractal design it's all intelligently constructed

 

The only issue I still had with this model is the infinite sized sets with infinite permutation with this particular combination already being there

 

So again, for now your answer I'll accept that it cannot be fully understood with mind and I guess that's good cuz if a puny mind understood that, then it certainly wouldn't be infinite intelligence

[MM1988]

I had this exact thought about a week ago and made a thread about it.

Also, the library of babel is not a database, its an algorithm. These pages are not stored anywhere they are generated on the fly.

[SoonHei]

@MM1988 oh yes. i understand the library of babel website/algorithm

i watched the full Vsauce video about it on YouTube, infact that's how i learned of this when his video first came out

i was referring to the theoretical library of babel existing just to make the reference only 

VSauce used to be my Actualized.org a few years back. 

Vsauce is still cool, but barely any videos - one only wonders if more smart minds were given a taste of Leo's content, what they would generate...

it is, what it is  

 

 

[Leo Gura]

@SoonHei It is not just brute force permutations.

The universe is so intelligent that it figured out a way to design itself down the very last molecule.

You can see a bit of this in action if you observe how your own mind works. The mind does not randomly string together permuations of words and ideas. The mind intelligently selects each thought so it makes maximum sense. This is the universe in action. The universe is thinking your thoughts for you. How? That is the wonder of it! It's astounding.

[SoonHei]

@Leo Gura wow love it. that was very elegant

of course i can't give YOU Leo the credit for it  that's just the Universe doing it thru you, but wow.

10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The universe is so intelligent that it figured out a way to design itself down the very last molecule.

and I suppose what's incredibly profound and ridiculous is that fact that there is no end to the number line in either direction... yet it is a complete closed loop of infinite material for eternity and as you said in one of your videos, it's is SO TOTAL and COMPLETE that it is everything and loops back to become nothing as well. a singular point of infinity 

 

thank you as always Leo  

 

 

also what's mind blowing is that fact that there is no limit to any limit we think there may be

if there can be a way to assign a number to "pain", and getting kicked hard in the balls was 10,000 PAIN POINTS (PP) that's the universe expericing and knowing that 10,000 PP thru you

 

but the universe is infinte so it must also know 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,123,443,543,000 PP as well

and so on, in any/all/infinte categories in infinte amount of ways

HOLY FRUX

 

 

anyhow, i'll end my mental masturbation before I COME to the wrong conclusions / or give BIRTH to new ones  

 

BACK TO WORK SUNNY!  

[kieranperez]

https://youtu.be/XGp1wjEkg3w

[SoonHei]

@kieranperez sweet. thanks