Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) On 26.3.2019 at 7:44 PM, winterknight said: I don't really answer questions about "my" experience because the answers are always misleading. Alright, let's try again: Should sex feel better before or after enlightenment? Also how often do enlightened people cry? If an enlightened person stubs his toe, does it hurt? Does that pain = suffering? If so, do enlightened people suffer? Edited April 28, 2019 by Carl-Richard Intrinsic joy is revealed in the marriage of meaning and being. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Carl-Richard said: Alright, let's try again: Should sex feel better before or after enlightenment? Also how often do enlightened people cry? If an enlightened person stubs his toe, does it hurt? Does that pain = suffering? If so, do enlightened people suffer? Why do you want to know the answers to these questions? What purpose would it serve you to know them? Website/book/one-on-one spiritual guidance: Sifting to the Truth: A New Map to the Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2019 2 hours ago, winterknight said: Why do you want to know the answers to these questions? What purpose would it serve you to know them? To understand the depth of suffering, pleasure, and pain, and how it relates to enlightenment. It's the most central aspects of life. What purpose would it "not" serve knowing this things? Intrinsic joy is revealed in the marriage of meaning and being. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Carl-Richard said: To understand the depth of suffering, pleasure, and pain, and how it relates to enlightenment. It's the most central aspects of life. What purpose would it "not" serve knowing this things? It paints false pictures that mislead seekers. Suffice to know that enlightenment is the end of your suffering. All the rest will only make you fantasize about something incorrect and make it harder for you to see the truth. Website/book/one-on-one spiritual guidance: Sifting to the Truth: A New Map to the Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 29, 2019 @winterknight can you still become enlightened while on anti-psychotics? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 29, 2019 1 hour ago, daniel695 said: @winterknight can you still become enlightened while on anti-psychotics? Yes. Website/book/one-on-one spiritual guidance: Sifting to the Truth: A New Map to the Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 29, 2019 Can you share with us any useful guided meditations on YouTube that you may know about? Or perhaps if you're interested, you could make one on your own channel? Thanks for taking the time to answer all of our questions! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 29, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Buba said: Why did you do this? There's no single answer to that question. Anyhow I don't really answer questions about 'my' experience or motivations. Isn't helpful. 51 minutes ago, Gudakesha said: Can you share with us any useful guided meditations on YouTube that you may know about? Or perhaps if you're interested, you could make one on your own channel? Thanks for taking the time to answer all of our questions! A guided meditation is an interesting idea. Don't have one yet. Meanwhile, follow these instructions for self-inquiry. Edited April 29, 2019 by winterknight Website/book/one-on-one spiritual guidance: Sifting to the Truth: A New Map to the Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 29, 2019 Do enlightened people daydream? Fantasize? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 29, 2019 31 minutes ago, Buba said: Do enlightened people daydream? Fantasize? Don't really answer questions about the experiences of 'enlightened people'; the answers are always misleading. But if you have questions about your path, I'd be happy to answer. Website/book/one-on-one spiritual guidance: Sifting to the Truth: A New Map to the Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 29, 2019 @winterknight you are really patient and kind enough to avoid the questions which are actually distractions and not in anyway helpful to the seekers ??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 29, 2019 15 hours ago, winterknight said: Suffice to know that enlightenment is the end of your suffering. How can I know what this really means if I don't know the difference between pain and suffering? Intrinsic joy is revealed in the marriage of meaning and being. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Carl-Richard said: How can I know what this really means if I don't know the difference between pain and suffering? You know what suffering means (compared to pain or otherwise) in your experience. No need to worry about what it means in the "enlightened" experience. Your suffering will be gone. That's the promise. Website/book/one-on-one spiritual guidance: Sifting to the Truth: A New Map to the Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, winterknight said: You know what suffering means (compared to pain or otherwise) in your experience. No need to worry about what it means in the "enlightened" experience. Your suffering will be gone. That's the promise. So what you're saying is that the mind-body identification with suffering ceases, but suffering itself doesn't cease? Intrinsic joy is revealed in the marriage of meaning and being. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said: So what you're saying is that the mind-body identification with suffering ceases, but suffering itself doesn't cease? That's one way of putting it, but like all ways of putting it, it's inaccurate and incomplete. Website/book/one-on-one spiritual guidance: Sifting to the Truth: A New Map to the Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, winterknight said: That's one way of putting it, but like all ways of putting it, it's inaccurate and incomplete. Ok. Do you think it's possible to end all suffering though? Intrinsic joy is revealed in the marriage of meaning and being. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said: Ok. Do you think it's possible to end all suffering though? Why not find out if there is suffering to begin with? Look into yourself and you'll find the answers to your questions. Website/book/one-on-one spiritual guidance: Sifting to the Truth: A New Map to the Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 30, 2019 15 hours ago, winterknight said: Don't really answer questions about the experiences of 'enlightened people'; the answers are always misleading. But if you have questions about your path, I'd be happy to answer. Thank you very much. I am reading the book of Daniel Ingram. He speaks about investigation three characteristics, true nature of sensations. He speaks about making effort to do that. How to do that? When I meditate I just observe. Should I just keep observing until three characteristics reveal themselves or is there any specific technique? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 30, 2019 @winterknight , is it true what Leo says, I created you to understand myself? “Words are like Leaves; And where they most abound, Much Fruit of Sense beneath is rarely found.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
