Sports and level of consciousness

[BestLifePossible]

Just had a random thought how the main drive to start playing sports is actually usually intrinsic at a young age for the love of the game etc, but then as you play at higher and higher levels it gets more and more corrupted and more of a very stage orange "Win at all costs mentality" seems weird as sports are so enjoyable yet can be ruined by this mentality and there's SOOO much corruption at the top level.

Anyways, do any of you play any sports/ have played competed at decent levels and did you find this to be the case as well?  

[RendHeaven]

A little off topic, but I find sprinting to be spiritual. Especially the 400m. It's short enough that you can give it everything and get that rush of thought-numbing adrenaline, but it's also long enough that you literally reach muscle failure as your body runs out of oxygen and starts producing lactic acid.

When it's all done, you're a heaving mess but the presence you gain from that is indescribable. Extended, full body pain coupled with an inability to think will literally shift your perspective, The trees look brighter and sharper afterwards, so much so that I doubt that they are really trees.

I think this is fascinating and nobody ever talks about it. To be honest, this effect can be achieved with almost any sport but it requires you to be really really aware, and you have to have basic consciousness theory under your belt.

[Sahil Pandit]

@RendHeaven that feeling when your booty is on fire and your legs give out and you're lying on the floor after a 400m but you feel that rush of euphoria and even though your body feels like death, somehow you manage to be at utter stillness/peace 

@BestLifePossible imagine how good these athletes could be if they went beyond stage orange.. consider the impact they could make on their sport as a whole if they observed it more holistically and less for the trophy/medal :0  

[SFRL]

I used to fight a in amateur boxing. And I have tagged along to professional boxing events. Trained a little at a professional boxing training camp. 

With boxing, they on purpose only allow amateurs to compete at the Olympics. Because professional boxing is so corrupt. 

One time I went to a professional boxing fight and one of the guys I talked with was going to fight. He had only like 6 months of training and he had forgotten to bring his boxing shoes. He had no fights amateur or professional. He really did not have the skills. 

They had him fight in his Timberland mountain shoes without the laces. And he was fighting some guy by the name "KO" Snow. That guy had 8 fights already and won all 8 by KO. 

Of course the guy in boots got blasted out. That's how they pad the records of upcoming talented guys. 

Not that amateur boxing is completely without corruption. Back in the day the Cuban fighters were considered the best at the amateur and Olympic level. Those guys never went professional because of the Communist doctrine that did not allow for professional sports. (Getting paid). 

The reason the Cubans were so dominant was because they practically were full time professionals that got everything provided for them by the Communist regime. So it was like 30 year old full time professionals fighting 20-something year old kids from other countries. 

 

Edited November 9, 2018 by SFRL

[NoSelfSelf]

Its on begginer level also the winning at all cost mentality i love the winner takes all it makes it much more interesting and intriguing....

[aurum]

1 hour ago, BestLifePossible said:

"Win at all costs mentality" seems weird as sports are so enjoyable yet can be ruined by this mentality and there's SOOO much corruption at the top level.

It depends on the person.

I played sports my entire life growing up. Very competitive, all I cared about was winning. Now as I've gotten older I've learned more about the value of collaborating.

At the same time, I do believe you need to have a mentality that you're going to succeed at whatever you're doing no matter what. That's called confidence. Anyone who doesn't have that likely hasn't been successful at very much in their life.

[7thLetter]

@BestLifePossible Personally I don't play a lot of sports, but I'm heavily into fitness training which my results are dependent only on me and not team-based. But my perspective on this topic is that it really depends on the people around you that you're playing the sport with. Of course at a younger age its mainly about the fun of the game, if you're playing with friends or PE class in elementary school. Then at an older age if you play professionally with money or some kind of reward on the line, then in that case the orange "win at all costs" mentality is pretty much required in order to achieve a certain result. But if you change the context and play the sport with friends and family at home, with no money on the line, then in that case it would be played just for fun.

A lot of times these types of mentalities are required and has its place in certain situations. If you played a competitive game in any sport just for fun of it and no pressure involved while the opposing team is playing to win then in my opinion I'd say your team is more likely to lose. At a job, the results-oriented mentality is also pretty much required in order to get stuff done, depending on the job. If you do the job at a slow-pace taking your time and enjoying yourself, then you'll probably get fired.

Really depends on the people around you and the context of the situation