Moving from BLUE to ORANGE

[Aquarius]

Hello so I was wondering what can a 60% Blue person do to move its more rigid parts into stage Orange.

I will post some notes that a person from youtube posted on Leo's stage blue video, and my own questions. You don't have to answer them all, Just give a general outlook or only answer a few or only one question (noted Q below)  that you can give a sure, straight-forward answer, an idea that I can start working on right now. I'm really making this a long term project to bring my broken blue parts into a more orange (and perhaps a little green) stage.  

(Johny's Notes = N; My Question = Q; My extra notes = E) :

N -- Read very deeply about stage blue Q -- What exactly should I read? For example the Bible, or a book criticizing/interpreting the Bible? Or both maybe? And what else? If I read about history, what period did exactly Blue start in?  E --  Study Bible, Quran, Hinduism, Religious ideologies, religious mechanism, about sects, history of Blue, middle ages

N -- Read and depth about stage Orange Q -- Again, what are some top books that will lead me into orange thinking? Success Books? Materialistic things? Hedonism? Romance novels? Self development? Law of attraction and money? How do I start? 

N -- It’s always helpful to read about your current stage and the next one  Q -- Should I also read Green, Yellow, Turquoise and Coral? If so give examples of green, + the other three. Should I read about all of them simultaniously or start with orange first?

N -- Stop judging Orange and specially Green and Yellow Q -- I don't judge them but how do I 100% empathize with their way of thinking and values? 

N -- Stop judging the hippies, the liberals and progressives Q -- Any good sources to read progressive, hippie, liberal material? What exactly is a hippie? Should I research hippie and psychedelic culture?

N -- Stop judging the intellectuals and globalists Q -- Who are they? (list people and ideas pls)

N -- Stop judging materialism, success, sexuality and relativism Q -- again, where do I find out more, how experience more of these? How does this work? How do I find out how it works?

N -- Stop judging mysticism and New Age spirituality Q -- Should I read New Age? Well, I am interested in it, but for now I'm aiming more Orange so.. thoughts??

N -- Stop judging moral depravity Q -- What exactly is moral depravity?

N -- Stop clinging to traditions Q -- What exactly is considered as a tradition?

N -- Accept the fact that everything is changing every time so that there is no security Q -- What does this mean?

N -- Become more skeptical and start thinking independent for yourself Q -- How do I do this?

N -- Start to question authority E -- Question God, question morals, question rules.

N -- Start to notice the limitations of religion and abuses of the church E -- Research how the church and religion abused and destroyed many things in the past.

N -- Notice that belief is not equivalent to Truth 

N -- Start to be iconoclastic and rebellious Q -- How do I gather the strength and courage?

N -- Start noticing the limitations of judgments and moralism  Q -- Any tips on how to come to this realization? 

N -- Start to acknowledge that reality is more relative than you ever thought E -- I kinda achieved this one but I think that with orange there comes a sense of fear of public image (for example the reputation of a business).. or is it green? Or is it still blue in a different form?

N -- Start to acknowledge that good and evil do not exist Q -- How do I trigger these ideologies until they simply fade?

N -- Start to question what God is and whether it exists or not Q -- Will need some good study sources here as well..

N -- Break your cultural conventions and visit another countries and cultures

N -- Start to notice how the hierarchy of your civilization is repressive and how it hurts other people Q -- Isn't this still there in orange??

N -- Acknowledge the commonalities of all people Q -- What does this mean?

N -- Acknowledge the validity of other religions E -- Obviously by studying them.

N -- Start to read books about success

N -- Study Nazism, Hitler, Communism and Marxism in all its different forms Q -- How do I do this without falling into the trap of believing those things?

N -- Star to see the cruelty of slavery

N -- Practice radical open-mindedness E -- Leo has a video on this.

N -- Embrace your feminine side Q -- What if I'm a girl?

N -- Do contemplation and self-reflection Q -- Meditation will do? 

[Forestluv]

This is great stuff about evolving toward Orange and Green levels. I would just be careful about getting to bogged down. I would have gotten overwhelmed with all of that. . . 

I grew up in a predominately Blue environment. Very Catholic, authoritarian. Lots of respect for rules and laws. One lives their life for an anthropomorphic God to gain access to an afterlife in heaven. 

In general, the keys to transition from Blue to Orange:

1. Things are not always "Black or White", "Good" or "Bad". There are shades of gray. There are spectrums. I.e. it is not always "bad" to break the law. Some laws are nonsense and, at times, it is actually "good" to break the law. . . People are not all "good" or "bad" - they are complex mixtures.

2. To challenge beliefs and start looking at things rationally and reasonably. . . Hmmm, maybe everything in the Bible is not literally true. Maybe the Noah's Arc thing is more poetic than literal. Maybe there is both "good" and "bad" stuff in the Bible. Maybe there are good lessons within all religions.

3. Personal development. Who am I? What do *I* value? How can I establish my own ethical framework? What does personal development look like for *me*? What are my personal goals and what steps can I take to achieve them?

[d0ornokey]

r/atheism turned me orange

careful though, it's orange dogma, im working on transcending the dogmas.

if you keep browsing r/atheism it'll probably turn you orange. 

 

specifically: 

- i noticed there was no proof for God, blind belief in religious doctrine. where was he? i didn't see him... show me the proof! 

- i hated blue traditions. i still do actually. why do things need to have such order? i want to do it my own way. im in that orange rebellious phase right now 

- I HATE that there needs to be some kind of "respect" just because someone is your elder. they don't have any more right to you than you do to them 

 

Edited November 7, 2018 by d0ornokey

[Aquarius]

@Serotoninluv Sure, I already got all of these. Then maybe my "60%" was an exaggeration? Maybe I have to cut that down to 30% blue in me?

But still I have some inhibitions that stem from my Blue upbringing. That's why I written this post so complexly. I really need to go about this the hardcore way. My family is hardcore blue, literally middle ages. My thinking is probably more Orange/Green, I mean the conscious one for that matter... but I have some weird neuroses that come from Blue that I simply do not know how to handle.

So maybe I just need to heal Blue wounds, and not really force myself into a different way of thinking, because I'm already there, just gotta let go of the baggage. And I'm going all the way with this even if it's going to take 1 or maybe 2 years and even cost money for therapy. I just want to do something about it. I cannot live like this. And I'm not lazy to study all that material. It won't overwhelm me because I'm doing 1 at a time. I'm picking 1 topic from the list of Notes (N) and doing that for a while. It's not like I'm doing this overnight you know.  

@d0ornokey Thanks, I'll definitely check out r/atheism!  

[Forestluv]

@Aquarius Hmmm. Perhaps you just need some precise fine tuning rather than a general overhaul.

For me, I was almost all Green - yet became aware I had some Blue-level issues with sex and relationships from my Catholic upbringing.

[d0ornokey]

@Serotoninluv lol what does yellow sex supposed to look like 

[SFRL]

@Aquarius

I think reading should be good. A book I am reading right now is "A Brief History Of Everything" by Ken Wilber. He is a Stage Yellow character. You can find videos of his on YoutTube. The read is great. It's very nuanced. And he writes very beautiful. He is also very funny if you get is sense of humor. The book being Stage Yellow should not matter I think. The middle between Stage Blue and Stage Yellow is Orange-Green. 

If you go to church maybe stop going to church (not all change is easy)

If you are interested in other religions study their books. Koran etc. 

Also humans are social creatures. So your development is highly influenced by your social interactions. 

I don't know what your romantic relationship life is like. If you are in a good relationship I advice not to torpedo it. But if you are not try dating. Use Tinder. That is a very Orange tool. If you are up for it date foreigners and people from other races do that. Only if you actually do have a natural attraction to them. But you can learn a lot from those interactions. It will develop a less ethnocentric and more globalist mindset for you. 

How do you start being rebellious? Well the above does take care of that to a degree. 

Watch the documentary 13TH it's on Netflix. Personal freedom is a shift from Blue to Orange. The abolishment of Slavery was an Orange act in a heavily stage Blue era. 

I know a great book about Hermann Goring pretty much the second Nazi in power after Hitler. But I got to find out the exact writer. Which languages you read? 

Watch the movie American History X. 

Django Unchained is a good one as well. 

 

One sidenote is that moving from one stage to another is not nesesairly pretty all the time. Some good things from the prior Stage get lost. With Orange for all it's good things, you got to be carefully because it can be very destructive to your personal relationships, your health, and the environment. 

Edited November 7, 2018 by SFRL

[Forestluv]

1 hour ago, d0ornokey said:

@Serotoninluv lol what does yellow sex supposed to look like 

Once you go Yellow, you never go back ? 

[Equanimitize]

@AquariusNot sure what your employment situation is, whether or not you want to be an entrepreneur, or escape wage slavery. But, there’s nothing better to become solid Orange then embarking on your entrepreneurial journey or at minimum make an effort to climb the success hierarchy. Of course you can do this with your higher self values. 

@SFRL Not a big deal, but I think Ken Wilber is probably Turquoise.

Edited November 8, 2018 by Equanimitize

[Strikr]

there is many ways, do the one that fit you the most, but I would aim at "mastery" and "be the best at something". then for transcend this, meditation and yoga and all the woo woo, orange will never do, but that's not what you should be doing right now. It's only when you feel that all yoga/meditation is complete bullshit waste, that you should be doing yoga hahaha that's the tricky thing

if you like series & story, watch game of thrones, best serie for trigger "blue"

Edited November 8, 2018 by Strikr

[Aquarius]

@SFRL Damn.. that sounded like an instruction for a caveman - not because of how you wrote, your post was GREAT, but because now I think I'm not even 1% Blue since I dont do any of that, so yeah I either confused Blue with Green or I have one single specific Blue neurosis that I cannot get over and I don't even know what it is I just know it is there. Or maybe it's the guilt trips that my family gives me when I make a rebellious joke... I get emotionally abused by my Blue family every day so it's no wonder I feel like I have to go through all the reading! Maybe I have to push away the toxic people and not the ideas that aren't even there in the first place..

I think @Serotoninluv was right that I need a specific fix somewhere, but the picture isn't clear. I just know that when I have the opportunity to be myself and go wild and have fun, I have a sudden mood shift, I could either call it neurosis or self sabotage, and what I do is I get super angry at the people having fun and I punish myself for feeling good and I have loud thoughts such as "Who do they think they are to do what they want, there needs to be order and discipline!!!". Ok not that exact sentence, but the emotion. And what I do after that is I go sit somewhere hidden, I cry, I yell at people... I have no idea what it is, I had it my whole life. Have you guys ever heard about something like this?

@Strikr You kiddin, Game of Thrones is my favourite show!!! <3 And yeah I'm working on my art right now.

[Joseph Maynor]

• Develop an enterprising mind and enterprising values.  
• Detach from cultural customs and traditions as having a moral ought behind them.
• Go after what you want to do in life without worrying what other people think about you.

Edited November 8, 2018 by Joseph Maynor

[Aquarius]

@Joseph Maynor Yes, these are actually some things I lack. Thank you.

[Strikr]

be your own king, create your realm

[Elysian]

22 hours ago, Aquarius said:

So maybe I just need to heal Blue wounds, and not really force myself into a different way of thinking, because I'm already there, just gotta let go of the baggage.

This sounds more likely, with how you talk about your family it seems you resent the Blue because of emotional trauma you got from it. 

4 hours ago, Aquarius said:

I just know that when I have the opportunity to be myself and go wild and have fun, I have a sudden mood shift, I could either call it neurosis or self sabotage, and what I do is I get super angry at the people having fun and I punish myself for feeling good and I have loud thoughts such as "Who do they think they are to do what they want, there needs to be order and discipline!!!". Ok not that exact sentence, but the emotion. And what I do after that is I go sit somewhere hidden, I cry, I yell at people...

 

I think you are confusing emotional trauma/trapped emotions as Blue traits. I was raised in a Baptist very Blue Household in the religious sense. Sunday school, church on Sunday, Christian private school during elementary, but my family wasn't as abusive as yours. My family was more neglectful because of not knowing how to raise me and having a lot of emotional trauma themselves.

Lashing out in anger, resentment, sadness when you get a chance to be your self. That might be the trigger for your trapped emotions because you were punished for being yourself/having fun. 

Trapped emotions are caused when we aren't able to handle the depth of emotion we have at the time, aren't allowed to feel it completely, or were never taught how to work through emotions. What you need is shadow work to clear out all the trauma you've experienced, and you'll probably find you're actually mostly orange/green with some blue to sort out.

I used the technique in The Emotion Code to clear out most of my trauma. It's pretty straightforward and can be read in a day. If you're body/subconscious feels it's ready to work through everything immediately, you could probably release all your trapped emotions in a few days.

A good documentary to watch on trapped emotions is E-motion. I think a lot of what you're going through will make sense once you get done with it. Sorry for the pain you're going through, I've been there myself and I know how much it sucks trying to fix something when you were never taught how.

If you need any advice with the technique in the book just let me know. I bought it on Amazon but I think you can get it for free here:

https://healerslibrary.lpages.co/emotion-code-gift/

 

Edited November 8, 2018 by Elysian
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[Forestluv]

4 hours ago, Aquarius said:

I just know that when I have the opportunity to be myself and go wild and have fun, I have a sudden mood shift, I could either call it neurosis or self sabotage, and what I do is I get super angry at the people having fun and I punish myself for feeling good and I have loud thoughts such as "Who do they think they are to do what they want, there needs to be order and discipline!!!". Ok not that exact sentence, but the emotion. And what I do after that is I go sit somewhere hidden, I cry, I yell at people... I have no idea what it is, I had it my whole life. Have you guys ever heard about something like this?

For sure. I grew up in a serious Blue environment. I had tons of judgments about people having the wrong kind of fun. I think a lot of it was rooted in the hyper critical environment I grew up in.

[Aquarius]

@Elysian Thanks I signed up and I'm waiting for my ebook in the email. You're 100% right about everything you said. That's exactly how I feel. I hope I can clear up this mess soon.

@Serotoninluv Honestly I live with them but I never really talk with them and it's been like this for about 10 years.