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LSD psychotherapy - Stanislav Grof. Could this work?

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For over four year, I have had constantly headache every day. The headache is sometimes severely painful, especially when I try to sleep in the evening. I have used a lot of time and dedication to find out what it has been the causation of this, but first now I think I might start to figure out what the problem is.

 

So I got the headache when I meditated for about 4 years ago. I had smoked cannabis prior to my meditation session, which makes me a lot more sensitive to the energy and thus the meditation experience get alleviated a lot. What happened during this meditation was that I start feeling a lot unpleasant energy running through my body. What I usually did when this happened was to just sit with the feeling until it dissolved, but this time the feeling just got more intense and I started to feel a pressure behind my eyes. Even though this happened, I continued to meditate until I saw a picture of a boy crying while he was trying to communicate something to his parents, but couldn't because there was some kind of hindrance for that communication to take place. The feelings in my body got really intense and suddenly I got something that felt like an electric shock in my body, where I almost fell of my chair. After this whole Incident, I have had this headache every day for almost 4 years.

 

I have tried all kinds of methods to get the headache away. I have done qigong, meditation and reiki healing. I have also gone to chiropractor and something called naprapat, which is a hybrid between chiropractor and muscle therapist. I have also done bioenergetics (which worked somewhat) and holotropic breathing (where I can feel where the blockages are). What I notice is that the more energy I get running through my body, the more the neck muscle and blockages tenses. When I do the holotropic breathing I feel all of the different blockages in my stomach, neck and jaw, but they stay somewhat the same, and when I have a very high breathing tempo, the headache gets worse the days afterwards. The specific muscle which I am pretty sure is the causation of the headache is semispinalis capitis, which puts pressure on the greater occipital nerve in my neck. When I try to stretch this muscle, the headache just gets worse.

 

So I have read Stanislav Grof’s book “Lsd Psychotherapy”, and I find it really intriguing. He writes that in his therapy he would do sessions with patients where he gave them between 200ug-400ug LSD. The patients then put on eyes hades and earphones and the whole point of the therapy was to just internalize the session and let different unconscious material and traumas emerge while not resisting it.

 

So I have a got a hold of a lot of magic mushrooms and LSD and I have already done three sessions with mushrooms the last the past month in some small doses with a friend of me who is almost done with his psychology education. In the first session, I made mushroom tea of 1.7g shrooms, and the effects weren’t that intense so I did not get to work through any material. I upped my dosage to 2g and ate them raw instead in my second session and the effects was bigger, but I still felt my headache, and my chest area felt a bit empty of energy. What I did the third session was to massage my solar plexus chakra the days before so I felt more in the area. When I had my third session, where I did 2.2g, I started to feel more in my solar plexus area (typical butterfly feelings), and I could feel that the neck tension worked in tandem with the emotions in my solar plexus chakra and stomach. My intuition tells me that the emotion sits in my stomach and the neck tenses up and gives me a headache that prevents energy to feed into my stomach region. I also started to get some visuals combined with a “felt sense” about something traumatic I have experienced earlier during a past psychedelic sessions 8 months ago (while doing bioenergetics). What I see is naked bodies, mouths, sometimes penises and some kind of trans sexual feelings. The session ended because I had developed tolerance for mushrooms (they are a quite strong mexican strain, but I have done it 3 times over 3 weeks, so I am tolerant now).

 

Some back story, When I was a kid, around 6-8 years old, I was sexually abused by a friend of me that I really looked up to which was 5 years older than me. My interpretation of the meditation session was that it triggered trauma connected to that experience. I remember I didn't tell my parents of the sexual abuse, because I knew my father would beat my friend and everybody would know about the incident. I see myself as the little boy who cried, and that I could not tell my parents due to how they would react was the hindrance that this boy encountered. I think that I saw a boy, and not my self, because I have dissociated from the trauma. In the bioenergetic session 8 months ago, I also had a feeling, or rather a hunch that I have been involved with incest with my 2 year older sister.

 

So the plan right now is to wait 2 weeks from the last mushroom session and do a 300ug LSD session. I just think that it might be a longer window to work on the trauma. I also have an intuitive feeling that I would integrate the session better with LSD. From what I have read in the book is that the trauma comes out and you can start to tremor, yell, have perinatal experiences, regress to early childhood and do all kinds of bizarre and irrational things. I just have a gut feeling that this could help me with my situation.

 

So what I am wondering about is if what I am saying makes sense? And have anybody had any trauma relief on LSD, mushroom or any other psychedelics (how was that)? Is it best to use LSD or mushrooms (and thoughts on dosage)? Does anybody think this therapy will help me with the headache I have? And last, are there any other way to work on my blockages or can psychedelics resolve it?

 

Sorry if this post seems disoriented. Thanks in advance!

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Hard to say if LSD will resolve your headaches, but it will certainly result in spiritual purification. LSD is an awesome substance. Dare I say, better than mushrooms.

You could also try Shamanic Breathing as described in my video. That's a very powerful therapeutic technique.

Don't trip on LSD or mushrooms more than once very 2 weeks. Otherwise tolerance. Plus you want to fully integrate your trips which usually requires at least a week or two. If you trip too often without enough integration you will likely start to experience some bad trips which will scare you away from psychedelics forever.

The best strategy is to trip gradually but consistently over long periods of time. The trips will build on themselves and you will keep growing and growing in depth.


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1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Hard to say if LSD will resolve your headaches, but it will certainly result in spiritual purification. LSD is an awesome substance. Dare I say, better than mushrooms.

You could also try Shamanic Breathing as described in my video. That's a very powerful therapeutic technique.

Don't trip on LSD or mushrooms more than once very 2 weeks. Otherwise tolerance. Plus you want to fully integrate your trips which usually requires at least a week or two. If you trip too often without enough integration you will likely start to experience some bad trips which will scare you away from psychedelics forever.

The best strategy is to trip gradually but consistently over long periods of time. The trips will build on themselves and you will keep growing and growing in depth.

Yeah, I prefer LSD a bit more than mushrooms because of it seeming more mechanical and wild. Regarding my tripping frequency, I think I have overdone it and the reason is because I haven't gotten the result or dose right which has bothered me a bit. I talked to my aunt which is a professional psychologist and she talked to some colleagues who had experience in the field and she said I should try to keep it to once per month.

I have done the Shamanic Breathing (holotropic breathing), and my older bioenergetic therapist actually showed it to me some weeks before you posted your film on YouTube. I have watched your video several times, and I think the problem I am encountering is that I have always tried to match your breathing pace, but I get to tired and it feels like it just put more strain on my emotional blockages afterwards. Lately I have just started medium-high pace, and when I start to feel sensations in the muscles, I change to medium-low pace while I try to relax while I am doing the exercise (it is a lot easier to keep going for a long duration this way). The past two times I have gotten a feeling of an developing vibration in my stomach and chest area, which seems to be a progress I guess. Do you think that this strategy is better?

When I did psychedelics earlier, it seemed like my headache and neck tension was static while I was tripping. But after I massaged my stomach, I could feel that when the energy moved freely in my stomach, I could also feel energy moving in my neck while I simultaneously was able to relax my neck muscle. The energy acted like how electrons move inside a power chord - all of them need to move at the same time. I could guess that you have worked through some emotional blockages from what I saw in your shamanic breathing video, what do you think about what I am describing?

I also remember you talking about Stanislav Grof. Do you think psychedelics or shamanic breathing is best to work on emotional blockages?

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6 hours ago, tofu said:

Do you think psychedelics or shamanic breathing is best to work on emotional blockages?

 

I've tried almost every psychedelic. Ayahuasca is hands down the best for emotional blockages. You will purge years of pent-up emotions that are stored in your body.

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9 hours ago, herghly said:

I've tried almost every psychedelic. Ayahuasca is hands down the best for emotional blockages. You will purge years of pent-up emotions that are stored in your body.

When you say ayahuasca, do you mean just NN-DMT tea or does ayahuasca need to be brewed it from the tree bark to make it work?

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