How Would You Compare and Contrast Stage Orange Vs. Stage Yellow

[Joseph Maynor]

Gimme your life observations or whatever you think is relevant to say.

[Flammable]

Stage Orange is usually moderately to really greedy whilst stage Yellow often sees the benefits/reasons of doing something beyond its material rewards (greed not only for money, but also for status, skills, etc).

Still a generalization, but often correct.

Edited October 31, 2018 by Flammable

[How to be wise]

@Joseph Maynor The difference is stage green.

A simple formula: orange + green = yellow.

A stage yellow person is very liberal, but unlike green he is moderate. A stage orange person is rational, a full stage yellow person is not. Stage yellow is integral: he integrates many different perspectives, orange does not.

The difference between a stage orange and yellow scientist: they are both interested in science, but a stage orange scientist is dogmatic with the paradigm he is stuck in. It will be very hard to convince him of anything outside of science. A fully stage yellow person on the other hand, is very comfortable in combining science and spirituality. As was said in the book ‘spiral dynamics’: “Spirituality meets up with quantum mechanics.” 

If you look at a lot of the 20th century scientists like Niels Bohr and so forth, they were easily able to combine spirituality with science, and so they were usually idealists, not materialists. Stage yellow inherited stage green’s capacity to accept all perspectives, however it is no longer just delusional about their effectiveness. If a thousand year old shamanistic dance from Mexico does not work, the stage yellow person will point that out blatantly, whilst the stage green person tries to explain away how everything is equally useful.

[Artaemis]

One defining factor is that yellow is beginning to tap into the deep subtleties of Turquoise. Orange is still wrapped up in the obvious and evident. Yellow's thinking is developing greater complexity, which lays the groundwork for comprehending Turquoise's mysticism. Orange is concerned with developing their faculties of reasoning and skepticism, establishing facts and figures, which is an important stepping stone but it limits their capacity to be open to the mystical and deeply subtle. 

Edited November 1, 2018 by Artaemis

[Artaemis]

Yellow is more likely to be open, less hidden than orange. Orange will put on a facade. To be aware of subtleties there has to be a degree of transparency and honesty. In my experience. They're interconnected. My ability to understand and come to observations is closely tied to how willing I am to be totally honest and transparent and take responsibility.  

Edited November 1, 2018 by Artaemis

[Joseph Maynor]

Orange doesn’t really care about ideas for the sake of ideas.  Yellow on the other hand is a worldly and cosmopolitan philosopher.  Yellow loves ideas for the sake of ideas and uses their ideas to put systems into place that improve their life.  Orange is primarily chasing material things and even when they have enough chase even more.  Yellow is beyond neurotically chasing money and material things.  What impresses Yellow are ideas and strategies for improving their own life, not just financially, but across all relevant domains.  Yellow is a visionary and lives by their own vision they have constructed for their own life.  Orange just chases money without really thinking about it.  Yellow can tell you exactly why they’re chasing everything they’re choosing to chase.  Yellow unlike Orange is a very nuanced and theoretical thinker.  Yellow is worldly whereas Orange is very much stuck in whatever scene they’re involved in.  

Edited November 2, 2018 by Joseph Maynor

[Joseph Maynor]

I think one of the markers of Stage Yellow is Stage Yellow isn't hamstrung by need as much as Stage Orange is.  Yellow has experienced a kind of security in their life that allowed them to develop a mind that isn't always neurotically hunting to satisfy survival needs.  Orange on the other hand is all about being neurotically tied to hunting for survival needs.  And Yellow like Red also is less inclined to be fake like Orange is, because Yellow never really had to give too much of a shit about what people think about them.  When you're at Yellow, you're out of the system basically and you've created your own system.  Yellow is living their own system, so their loyalty is only to their own system.  When Yellow fails, it's because there's a flaw in their own system that only they can remedy, and Yellow knows this. 

Yellow is not looking for any kind of help from anybody else.  Yellow understands that life is a single man race -- it's you doing your thing, and the only standards are your own.  Yellow realizes that success outside of your own system is pointless.  In other words, Yellow realizes that success just is harmonizing with your own system.  For example, Yellow doesn't do things that go against their own system to please other people because Yellow realizes that only causes a backlash mechanism to occur.  Yellow's mantra might be -- be true to yourself first and create your own life; and then maybe you can go help others too.  Stage Orange's mantra is help others first (by being a good worker bee), and then maybe you can help yourself.  Yellow has much more of a big picture Life Purpose than Orange does.  Yellow wants to contribute something noble back to society at large.  Orange doesn't typically have too much of a big picture Life Purpose.

Stage Yellow realizes the power of scheduling and strategy.  Yellow is super-organized and super-subtle in how they live their life and how they speak and write.  Yellow doesn't talk in broad strokes, but in shades of grey, always sensitive to the particular case or the paradox uprooting the hard and fast rule.  Yellow doesn't really think in terms of hard and fast rules.  Yellow fully realizes that your rules aren't my rules, and only my rules truly matter.  Yellow doesn't have too much of a persona and isn't fake either.  Yellow says what they mean and mean what they say.  Orange operates on a need to need basis with people and tends to conceal their authentic voice behind a mask or persona.  Yellow, similar to Orange yet different, is definitely more conservative than Green is, and Yellow fully believes in and lives under the banner of personal responsibility.  Yellow realizes that people get what they had the capacity to do for themselves in life.  Yellow sees all the traps that most people don't see about what holds them back.  And Yellow applies this apparatus to themselves first and foremost and sees all their own faults and can probably enumerate them for you in several different ways if asked.

Edited November 2, 2018 by Joseph Maynor

[kieranperez]

The biggest ones to me that I’ve noticed is the transcendence of judgment and more openmindedness from Yellow as opposed to Orange. Yellow is able to entertain and do a lot of “homework” into things they don’t understand that may seem outside of the cultural paradigm and are willing to admit they don’t understand.