Questions About Leo's Recent Video.

[ZenDog]

 

 

This is regard everything he says after around 45 min. 

He says your intuition probably feels what he's saying is right, yet you don't take action towards it, because you are too stupid. I agree.

He says: 'you are not actually sitting down to discover your true existential nature, you are jerking your self around.'

Who is he speaking to? The people who don't meditate at all? The people who don't do self inquiry at all?

Or does spending 2 hours a day on meditation/enlightenment work so little that it almost counts as not taking action?

Is taking real action actually isolating yourself doing nothing but meditation/enlightenment work? Is this the best life strategy?

 

Im 20 years old. Im in a huge dilemma. Should I pursue my life purpose or enlightenment? What is the point of hustling towards my life purpose if its not even gonna make me happy in the end?

 

Is the ultimate strategy just to skip my 20's? forget about sex, friendships, family, travel, creative work etc. and just live in the woods?

I've heard dozens of time you don't have to do this, that you can live a normal life and pursue enlightenment at the same time. Can you really??

you are BOMBARDED with distractions from enlightenment when you are living in a normal society, will you ever reach enlightenment with 2 hours a day of meditation/enlightenment work while living normally? 

[Leo Gura]

You can make it work either way.

The problem is that the ego doesn't want to make it work either way.

The road to full enlightenment is not gonna be easy no matter how you slice and dice it.

I personally think living in the woods for a few years is a great idea, especially if you have few obligations and are able. But that's just me.

Living your whole life in the woods is not necessary. It's only helpful for a short while to unaddict yourself from society and to get the focus to have those first few critical enlightenment experiences.

[ZenDog]

26 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I personally think living in the woods for a few years is a great idea, especially if you have few obligations and are able. But that's just me.

Living your whole life in the woods is not necessary. It's only helpful for a short while to unaddict yourself from society and to get the focus to have those first few critical enlightenment experiences.

As of now I don't really have many obligations since im not far into my life purpose.

I'm already taking a gap year before going to university. Maybe I should take this year of my life to unaddict myself from society? Or is it bad to set your life purpose aside for a year like this? 

 

[Leo Gura]

@ZenDog At your age, I think it's a great move. If you really took 1 year off in solitude to focus on discovering yourself, that would save you years of misery and hundreds of thousands of dollars in losses over your lifetime.

It would be a very wise strategic decision.

The difficulty for you would be to actually carry it out and not piss that year away on distractions.

Can you actually pull off such wisdom?

That is the key question. 99% of people cannot.

[Enizeo]

@Leo Gura So what do you actually recommend? I'm in the same position right now, and I'm really unsure of what's the right thing to do

[Leo Gura]

@Enizeo I recommend you make your own decision based on your own intimate knowledge of your self, your abilities, and your maturity level.

This is not a decision you can outsource to any guru or teacher or coach.

You're gonna have to suffer through the agony of the decision-making process.

Let's hope you are a wise general, wise beyond your years

[Enizeo]

@Leo Gura On a deep level, I knew that this was what you were gonna say, but I guess I was hoping for an easy solution

Well, the easy way is the hard way anyways I guess Thank you for everything, you're work was the key to changing my life right now <3

[ZenDog]

45 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@ZenDog At your age, I think it's a great move. If you really took 1 year off in solitude to focus on discovering yourself, that would save you years of misery and hundreds of thousands of dollars in losses over your lifetime.

It would be a very wise strategic decision.

The difficulty for you would be to actually carry it out and not piss that year away on distractions.

Can you actually pull off such wisdom?

That is the key question. 99% of people cannot.

I have considered it for a while. I'm trying to figure out how I could do this. Because there are logistical issues like paying for food and rent, cabins in the wood are kinda expensive.

also i fear that:

- My family is gonna go crazy and think im nuts.

- Im cutting contact to all my friends

- Im gonna lose all my muscle foundation ive worked so hard for.

- My social anxiety is gonna come back stronger than ever.

Are there any popular simple methods to take a year in solitude?

joining a monastery?

 

 

Edited April 3, 2016 by ZenDog

[Infinite]

I'm 19 years old, and I'm faced with the same exact decision. I think that taking a year off for solitude would be the wise decision, but I'm not really sure how to go about doing it. 

[ZenDog]

@Infinite

 

im thinking maybe something like this? This guy did it very cheap

[Infinite]

@ZenDog I'm not sure. 

[Leo Gura]

Hawaii's a pretty expensive place to do it. You could make your dollar go much further somewhere less touristy.

[Juan Cruz Giusto]

@Leo Gura Question, the real I doesnt get any benefits since it is perfect right? 

[Eye]

Just watched that episode. Very good video, as always.

Is there a possibility to measure the progress of somebody's enlightenment? Like, this guy over there is in 70% enlightened because he's been attending to several meditation retreats and he's been into self inquiry for 20 years, whilst that guy there is just 5% because he's just started to work on himself and he often falls back into the trap of ego. Is it even... countable? Measurable? To the point when a beautiful day comes, when you level up from 99% to 100% and BOOOM - ENLIGHTENMENT ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED! And suddenly you are finally alive/you are in heaven?

I know it sounds silly, but I'm asking about the "real" enlightenment work - self inquiry/mindfulness, self acceptance, deep meditation sessions, living in the woods/whatever, taking DMT's or other transcendental substances, eating organic, taking care of the body and more and more. Is it measurable?

And even if it is, what I mean is - is there any point of working on "yourself" towards enlightenment if there is NOBODY to work on? There is NO YOU to become enlightened, because you don't exist. Do you?

Could someone elaborate more on that matter? 

Thank you:)

Edited April 4, 2016 by Eye

[Henri]

You all need an amount of self-knowledge, a proper set of spiritual exercises and a lot of discipline. You all do not.

You`ll probably scream for your mothers, jerk yourself off all the time and making plans to go fucking kill the responsible Leo.

Right now you are all not even grown up, you are not even adults. Psychologically spoken you are just half way.

I would recommend to join a monastery or ashram first. That`s already hard enough at your age.  

[ZenDog]

5 hours ago, Henri said:

You all need an amount of self-knowledge, a proper set of spiritual exercises and a lot of discipline. You all do not.

You`ll probably scream for your mothers, jerk yourself off all the time and making plans to go fucking kill the responsible Leo.

Right now you are all not even grown up, you are not even adults. Psychologically spoken you are just half way.

I would recommend to join a monastery or ashram first. That`s already hard enough at your age.  

Maybe going straight for year is to big of a leap. Think im gonna try to find some 3 month meditation retreat first.

[Infinite]

5 hours ago, Henri said:

You all need an amount of self-knowledge, a proper set of spiritual exercises and a lot of discipline. You all do not.

You`ll probably scream for your mothers, jerk yourself off all the time and making plans to go fucking kill the responsible Leo.

Right now you are all not even grown up, you are not even adults. Psychologically spoken you are just half way.

I would recommend to join a monastery or ashram first. That`s already hard enough at your age.  

I actually agree with you. I don't think I'm mentally prepared for this at all. 

[charlie2dogs]

On 4/3/2016 at 5:31 PM, Leo Gura said:

You can make it work either way.

The problem is that the ego doesn't want to make it work either way.

The road to full enlightenment is not gonna be easy no matter how you slice and dice it.

I personally think living in the woods for a few years is a great idea, especially if you have few obligations and are able. But that's just me.

Living your whole life in the woods is not necessary. It's only helpful for a short while to unaddict yourself from society and to get the focus to have those first few critical enlightenment experiences.

Leo I'm loving the new video, its right on.

[Khin]

On ‎4‎/‎3‎/‎2016 at 5:31 PM, Leo Gura said:

I personally think living in the woods for a few years is a great idea, especially if you have few obligations and are able. But that's just me.

Actually me too.. Everything I'm try so hard now is to finish my responsibility. After that, my goal is to do whatever that would make me easier to attain full enlightenment.

Edited April 5, 2016 by Khin
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[Brian Greendahl]

I have found that it's possible to take a year or two off while still being planted right in the mainstream of life. Still going to work everyday, maintaining a household, friendships etc. It's a mindset. It can't be adopted at once but can be worked into over 2 to 3 months. Completely detach from everything yet still be present.