Think about it for a minute

[Shin]

Do you make your heart beat ?

Do you make your hairs grow ?

Do you make you digestive system work ?

Do you make your blood circulate ?

Doesn't feel like it right ?

It is happening regardless of "you".

 

Do you make your thoughts appear ? Hummmm

Do you make your breath rise and fall ? Hummmmmmm

Do you make your body move ? Hummmmmmmmmm

It does feel like it RIGHT ?! Hummmmmmmmmmmm

Why would those things could be felt as if you were doing it, but not everything else ?

After all, you almost never put your attention to your breath and it works fine.

When you walk in the street watching your phone, your body moves just fine without any input coming from you.

And if you've done some meditation, you realized that you don't control what thoughts you will have too.

So why does it feel like you're doing those things.

Could it be that you're creating an illusion of control ?

Could it be that those sensations of ownership are thoughts themselves ?

 

 

Edited October 29, 2018 by Shin

[Strikr]

HUMM INQUIRY

[Shin]

4 minutes ago, Strikr said:

HUMM INQUIRY

[Strikr]

you're not nothing, but you're not something

are you a monkey ? hummm 

are you a ant ? hummm

are you "you" ? hummm

[Rilles]

Who is humming?

[Preetom]

@Shin

Great post. The sense of doership and free will is the stronghold of ego. 

No ego survives if that stronghold is demolished. 

Yet nothing of value ever gets damaged from this destruction. That's the beauty of it!

[Forestluv]

3 hours ago, Strikr said:

you're not nothing, but you're not something

are you a monkey ? hummm 

are you a ant ? hummm

are you "you" ? hummm

Yes, Yes and Yes

[Hafiz]

What will happen when I let go of control of doership? 

What then will I do? 

[Preetom]

1 hour ago, Hafiz said:

What will happen when I let go of control of doership? 

What then will I do? 

Find out in your current experience if you're really doing anything at all or not!

Just look. Where is that 'I- the doer' located? Can you find it?

What are your expectations towards this 'I-the doer'? Protect my body, be a good human, memorize important stuff, make be better, make my life easier, make me happy etc?

See if you're making these expectations on a real, solid thing or on some non-existent ghost  

[moon777light]

i was with you until the 

7 hours ago, Shin said:

Could it be that those sensations of ownership are thoughts themselves ?

what does that mean? that the autonomic movements are thoughts? 

[Shin]

3 minutes ago, moon777light said:

i was with you until the 

what does that mean? that the autonomic movements are thoughts? 

I can't answer that without lying/pretending I know more that what I do 

 

[Forestluv]

4 hours ago, Hafiz said:

What will happen when I let go of control of doership? 

True freedom