Why are most serious yogis and gurus male?

[Mondsee]

Men seem to outnumber women when it comes to serious mystics and spiritual leaders - why is that?

Edited October 26, 2018 by Mondsee
Reformulated question

[Forestluv]

@Mondsee There are tons of awakened women. Many teach small retreats and have youtube stations. For example, check out the science and nonduality list - lots of women. There was also an actualized thread on awakened women. It was enormous - I think well over 100 women.

[Fool of all trades]

Because of the same reason why most of the serious leaders in history were men. Because men are the leading animal.

It doesn't mean however that  women are less awakend as a whole by any means.

[Jack River]

Yogi/guru, serious? Common dudes

[Forestluv]

14 minutes ago, Fool of all trades said:

Because men are the leading animal.

Homunculus lives on ?

[Your place at Heart]

Because women nowadays are being constantly conditioned to be materialistic by their parents, society, culture, media. Men are conditioned to be shallow and in order to be able to have sex or start family and children, they have to acquire material and wealth in order to be able to mate and hence most fail at this journey and start to detach and denounce materialism and found the love they ever wanted but within and its for free and much more rewarding and and hence become gurus and mystics or Sufi devotees or sheikhs..etc. There are types of females who become mystics are those who go through the same pain as their male counterparts and take the heroes journey. SO please understand Its not male vs female and why there are not more of this rather than that, understand what's the life story of those individuals and what made them to become serious gurus and mystics and how can we take their life stories and teach others to become serious lovers(mystics or gurus or sufi sheikhs) in path of enlightened lovers like Rumi, Shams tabrizi and Sadhguru, peter ralston, osho, Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, Muhammad..etc. The men who were rarely understood.

[Fool of all trades]

1 hour ago, Serotoninluv said:

Homunculus lives on ?

Just because masculinity is an ego concept it doesn't mean it doesnt affect the reality. So what the social roles are fake? They are still there, whether you feel enlightened or not.

Edited October 26, 2018 by Fool of all trades

[Forestluv]

Your view of “leader” is what made me chuckle. 

9 minutes ago, Fool of all trades said:

Just because masculinity is an ego concept it doesn't mean it doesnt affect the reality. So what the social roles are fake? They are still there, whether you feel enlightened or not.

 

[Arthur]

This is just my personal opinion. In general, I think men have more Ego than women.

Having more potent Ego means it creates more trouble in your life. By suffering more from Egoic problems, we tend to surrender and drop the ego much faster. If Ego is subtle in your life, you might be less likely to do something about it.

Edited October 27, 2018 by Arthur

[Tony 845]

@Arthur  nice reply, "I" can see that" 

[Joseph Maynor]

10 hours ago, Fool of all trades said:

Because of the same reason why most of the serious leaders in history were men. Because men are the leading animal.

It doesn't mean however that  women are less awakend as a whole by any means.

I think Leo said something about this in one of his videos where he said that because men can't have children we need to give birth through our work.  I recall Billy Joel saying that his songs are like his kids, and that each song was birthed into the world much like his kids were. 

Men need to find a way to birth their ideas into the world.  I think that's why men outnumber women in the arts and sciences.  That said, women are just as talented as men, they just direct their energies into their own families.  Now, obviously there are exceptions to this.  But in general, I think men need to give something back to the wider-world much more so than women do.  It's a need in men. 

Men need the wider-world to acknowledge to us that we were here and did something great while we were here.  Every man that you've known thinks he's special and wants to contribute something back to the wider-world.  This is in-built in men.  I think this might come from the fact that men are more focused "out there", whether that's making money, or excelling in some art, or contributing to the sciences. 

Men seek to do their work and make their mark outside the home, whereas women seek to do their work and make their mark inside the home.  So, women are just as talented as men, but they see less need to push their talents on the wider-world than men do.  Now, obviously there are exceptions to this. 

Even boys identify with super-heroes that do extraordinary things in the wider-world, the outer world -- think of Spiderman.  That speaks volumes.  Every man thinks of himself on some level as a super-hero -- now, he may not be appreciated yet by the wider-world, but that's a different issue.  Girls fantasize about totally different things when they're children. 

Little boys want to be Power Gods basically, which is the spirituality of Stage Red.  Red wants to be the strongest person in the world that controls the world and has everything he wants.  Think of He-Man.  Think of Donald Trump!  Donald Trump took Stage Red spirituality to its pinnacle -- even becoming president of the United States.  Don't mistake thinking Stage Red is immoral, that's a trap.  Nobody thinks of themselves as immoral.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/He-Man

Edited October 27, 2018 by Joseph Maynor

[Evilwave Heddy]

Yall are a bunch of triggered nerds.

[Arkandeus]

I think it has to do with properties of female energy 

Most men are leaders and construction workers while most women are caregivers and nurturers  

 

The planet itself is feminine, gaia is a she, she supports us, makes us physical 

 

Women on average have a higher vibration then men , women become mothers, they support life so they are more stable  , like the egg there is no competition, the egg of a woman simply comes into being, it is stable 

While men on average have less vibration, but they go in all directions, and when they do stand out they really stand out (leaders), but when they suck they mostly really suck  (crime)

You have to keep in mind that in the beginning of life for male energy is literally a competition survival race! millions of spermcels racing one another to reach the egg in the vagina  

I mean this is pretty mindblowing and intense, spermcels that die, some that dont make it, like an obstacle course, racing your brothers because one only one gets to merge with the egg, its just insane  

One out of millions of spermcels makes it, one out of millions, thats the leader,thats the nature of male energy, surpassing the status quo, reaching for new heights where no one has gone before, pushing the limits, evolution   

But both male and female sacred powers are a part of all of us

Edited October 27, 2018 by Arkandeus

[Fool of all trades]

Just now, Serotoninluv said:

Your view of “leader” is what made me chuckle. 

 

There's no "me" so how can it have any views?

[molosku]

@Fool of all trades if there is no writer of a post, how come you posted? Same reason. 

[Shin]

Because we are the superior gender

/discuss

[Arthur]

33 minutes ago, Shin said:

Because we are the superior gender

/discuss

My fifth wife doesn't agree with you.

[Shin]

5 minutes ago, Arthur said:

My fifth wife doesn't agree with you.

Only 5 wives ?

In which retarded country do you live ?

??

[sarapr]

For the same exact reason that men are always the ones who are in the top ten in any given area of life

I don't know why but seems like that all women have ever done since the beginning of time has been to give birth to men who will be in the top ten

It's just nature. Can't deny the facts

I read a news a while back saying there was a court argument about weather women should be allowed in ashrams in India or not. So that tells you a lot. Women have even been denied the practice of spirituality so how can there even be a serious female mystic out there if no one's gonna listen to them. That's been the case for most of history that even if women did have anything better to offer no one would listen so why bother 

Edited October 27, 2018 by sarapr

[Forestluv]

15 minutes ago, sarapr said:

For the same exact reason that men are always the ones who are in the top ten in any given area of life

I don't know why but seems like that all women have ever done since the beginning of time has been to give birth to men who will be in the top ten

It's just nature. Can't deny the facts

I read a news a while back saying there was a court argument about weather women should be allowed in ashrams in India or not. So that tells you a lot. Women have even been denied the practice of spirituality so how can there even be a serious female mystic out there if no one's gonna listen to them. That's been the case for most of history that even if women did have anything better to offer no one would listen so why bother 

When you reach stage green, you are in for a treat ?