Positivity

[SkyPanther]

4 hours ago, Socrates said:

No it can't. Look at research on internet. Don't ask skypanther for a link, he will just send you to the leftist bias guardian tabloid to "back up" his green constructed concoction 

I totally admit I am biased, but I never hid that. 

As for the guardian, I tend to go to what most agree as accurate reporting, whether it is actually accurate or not, I do not know, since I was not there, and even if I were it would still be colored by my bias. 

Feel free to ignore anything I post, or link.  

Edited April 8, 2016 by SkyPanther

[SkyPanther]

3 minutes ago, Socrates said:

@SkyPanther Harry. Not sure how intelligent you are. But you must know u being persuaded by liberals to adopt more of their view. Human being sick animals who always have political agenda and all communication is designed to persuade you to follow their lead. Since dawn of history this been the case. Just you pobably too sick to see it yet. Be sceptical

I do not care who is liberal or conservative, I care about what is more "true", to a situation. Sometimes that is liberals, sometimes that is conservatives, sometimes it is neither or both.

The reason I call myself "liberal" has nothing to do with the politics, and everything to do with the intention. 

Edited April 8, 2016 by SkyPanther

[SkyPanther]

Just now, Socrates said:

You sick mate. You here to gather allies to push agenda. You got mouth to feed yet you on internet. The ego is sick animals. You think all people cannot see your ego in action? The fact you have clever answer that contradict everything you say is big big sick ego in need of agreement. Ken wilber the first of June to see the mean green meme and it distorting boimeritis ego games

Maybe, or maybe I can hold a view and not cling to it. I do have to live in the world of concepts, and conditioned reality.   There may come a time where I leave it behind, but right now it has me interested enough that I stay.

But I am enjoying these conversations with you.

[Isle of View]

@Socrates

Now I see what you are doing. 

But you're totally on the wrong path my "egoless" friend.

Get a life.

 

[SkyPanther]

2 minutes ago, Socrates said:

You don't care what true. You think truth is some middle way. Just Buddhist bull. You have big agenda here, manipulated alies like anyone you can charm and stroke ego to persuade to take your view. Snake charmer with intellect. You are anti Christ and clever deciever. Lot of men like you in sick world

No, I think truth is whatever truth is... I don't know what it is, but extremes are no more truth than anything else. I am fine with being the anti-Christ, as for deceiver, well, that is a matter of debate.  I could be sincere and think I am telling the truth, when I am actually really deceived.  But then my intention is not to deceive...  I could just totally be wrong and think I have truth.   I have not forced anyone to read my posts, everyone here is free to leave, ignore, or not read the posts they deam offensive. 

[SkyPanther]

1 minute ago, Socrates said:

No.mate..self.deception is switching views. That the work of the anti Christ in you. There is only.one truth and you will.know that if you wake up. Buddhist teachings you have without guidance have corrupted you and you have used them for evil

I do not switch views. I am not attached to a view.  I think some views are more "right", "wholesome", or "skillful", but those views do not have a political affiliation.  Sometimes liberals have it, sometimes conservatives, sometimes moderates, sometimes neither of them.

I have my own path though, if people are interested I can share that, by pointing them at the Pali Canon, or Vedanta, depending on their disposition, but I don't think it is my right to tell others how to live their lives, who to vote for, or anything else that infringes on the path they chose. 

[Isle of View]

1 minute ago, Socrates said:

when ego gains momentum in any community

That's actually very visible in your behaviour right now.

Sorry to say...

[Infinite]

2 minutes ago, Socrates said:

Keep going. The more you argue your.position the more.you disclose yourself as needing to keep people opinion of you positive because you need the popularity.

Aren't you currently arguing your position? 

[Infinite]

16 minutes ago, Socrates said:

To see ego you must study transactional analysis. All games become apparent. This is why I'm master at spotting ego lies.

You're the apparent master at spotting ego lies, but you fail to spot your own... 

[Isle of View]

Hahaha

3 minutes ago, Socrates said:

Kind regard chris. You have butter up manipulation tactics just like ordinary man in real world..you no better than the egoic snake charmer at the dawn of time. We are told by people.like you to suspend belief so you can come in and corrupt with flase belief. Skeptic is the antidote to the deciever, if more people were skeptic and could point out lies then people like you would have no power here. You have easy.pickings as you are intellectually educated and have eager dsciple waiting to soak up anything you say. Ego is such a game player

Please, give me more of that.
Can you please give me the dirstribution rights for this piece?

It's marvelous.

[Infinite]

@Socrates What the hell are you even talking about?  What truth are you trying to tell us that we can't swallow? You're just talking a bunch of bullshit here. You keep saying that everyone's trying to corrupt each other with lies, but I don't see any of that occurring anywhere throughout this post. All I see is your ego going wild, thinking that it's better than everyone else here. 

[Isle of View]

2 minutes ago, Socrates said:

If I can spot ego games, then it because I did it in my first. I am not shooting for popularity here. This is why I behave like asshole because truth is hard to swallow. Lies easily delivered by the snake like in the garden of Eden.. The truth is something you don't want to hear. 

As I said before, I see what you're doing. But this is the false approach for a forum.

Nobody asked you to be their guru. Play your childish game elsewhere. Some people here are seriously interested in genuine exchange. Some want advice. Some want to share insights. All you do is criticising people under the disguise of "support".

Whos ego is sick, dude?

Get a life.

[SkyPanther]

11 minutes ago, Socrates said:

Keep going. The more you argue your.position the more.you disclose yourself as needing to keep people opinion of you positive because you need the popularity. This is not just you, it the way of the world..power corruption come natural.when ego gains momentum in any community. The fact.people even come one here as adviser is root is corrupt ego to persuade. People.to persuade anywhere is enough to keep.feeding self sense. Otherwise all study is for nothing..enlightenment being does not bother persuading others, just live life 

Or, you know, I could be having fun here talking with you.  If I am being watched or not, won't change the content of how I say things, though I may be more or less blunt, depending on the audience.   I have no power here, people do not know who I am, I can make a different username and post as that if I say the wrong things, and the only person that would know is Leo by looking at my IP. 

I never claimed to be enlightened. I did say I was on the path;  but the final delusion does not break till later, I am totally fine having fun, while realizing it is all meaningless.  We are playing games here after all, no? Or are you taking this seriously? 

[Isle of View]

1 minute ago, Socrates said:

No you showing your real colour. You sick ego oscillating between fake laughter amusement and now devaluation splitting. You have no truth, just made.up Buddhism from Western mindset. Real truth delivered from lineage holders in contained community. You fail to recognise this you are sharlatan looking for desciples to take under wing so they can praise how good you are and this creates some degree of external validation for ego

Ahahaha...

Amen.

(Sorry, won't feed your ego any longer. I know how much you enjoy it, but I have no time feeding trolls.)

[SkyPanther]

Just now, Socrates said:

You know you getting strokes here. Validation for your help, using ego manipulation tactics transactional stroking to get approval for sharing false.wisdom teachings. New perspective is built on latest comment about something, build while ideology and go to next website as "elder" with knowledge to get ego need met. Serious site will reject because of the false mind games cannot go unnoticed in aware community

Nothing wrong with stroking, as long as you know it's a game, and meaningless. Sometimes it's fun talking with like minded people, sometimes it fun helping others.  Sometimes it's fun being an "anti-Christ", like you are playing here.  Kudos for keeping the game going. 

[SkyPanther]

Just now, Socrates said:

Now talks about stroking because first become aware but use it as if you known about it all the time, reframed in light to defend ego and position. Once more..every argument and concept can be reframed to uphold.position and never defer from game of the ego. 

Well, to be clear I used stroking egos because that is the verbiage you used...  I am taking nothing you say here seriously or personally, so might as well play and have fun back with you. 

I need more people like you in my life... it's fun actually having people tell what's on their mind without filters.  Though I think this is not half of the authentic experience I would get from an actual Bhikkhu of a particular lineage.

[SkyPanther]

5 minutes ago, Socrates said:

Your self deception anti Christ. Twisting mirror to suit ego and put awareness back on the mirror to develue it's validity. Sick ego games since dawn of history. Nothing new here. Ego used in service of insanity as tolle.my favourite Western guru says. Ego can masquerade as high consciousness values, ego all over this site self deception cherry picking to keep ego feeling good at all cost. Everything twisted to suit ego agenda. All concept in service of ego instead of in service of awareness.

You keep using anti-Christ like that's a bad thing to me, or is that a bad thing in your mind?  I don't actually follow any guru, except the Pali Canon, and a monk who sometimes chips in with his meditation expertise.  

So I have no real idea of what Tolle says other than watching some videos that were pretty entertaining. I've not read any of his books.  As for the rest, feel free to think whatever.  Ego is tricky, I am still uprooting fetters, and this is a fun exercise. 

[SkyPanther]

1 minute ago, Socrates said:

No person here is ready to deal with the ego. That requires months of grief and rage to get through that stage. Talking about it and mediating on it is pointless. However setting up YouTube channel, putting how many hits.the channel gets on website, chin stroking into the camera for a snappy avatar and spreading your "hard earned" knowledge are all ways in which the two year old can get the significance it still craves. You no different buddy 

How do you know I have not gone through grief, rage, and despair? That's the nice thing about the internet, you know nothing about me, other than what I say here.  And anything I say here can be a role I am playing.  Or maybe it's true, or maybe it's half true.

Again, I never claimed to be fully enlightened, or "killed" the ego, or any of the sort.  I have been saying that I am working on it.  This forum, meditation, people like you (thank you), are all lessons on the path.  But I could be saying this because I know it sounds nice, I could also be saying this because I know that is what the Dalai Lama and other Bodhisatta's have said and I could be parroting them. I could just totally be lying, or I could be sincere.

I do not care how you, or anyone else takes it.  If I am being honest or not, really, only matters to me and my own progress. 

I am not taking anything you say seriously, or personally, I am sitting in an office, on a chair, drinking coffee and eating friday donuts.   I am enjoying this exchange. 

Also listening to the Dhammapada (verse 28 and others) from time to time. 

[Harry]

2 hours ago, Socrates said:

 

4 minutes ago, Socrates said:

@SkyPanther Buddy. You game is trancend and repress. Ego still there. Still active. But ouside realm of awareness. Your Buddhism doesnt allow for authntic self. I says all self is ego. So tries to obliterate self sense and in doind so drives shadow underground underneath facade of peace and detatchment from view. 

The fact you think work is fun means you are.nowhere near doing the real task. But it is fun to use Buddhism to construct a red liberal.ideolody to keep.the ego in power over the rest.of.world.

Liberalism is red.mate. Red in denial..that's all.it is. Just because you know what "regressive left" means intellectually doesn't mean you free of it. You act it out all.time while intellectualising it away with fake doctrine, concepts, layers of concept from videos, website other people opinion, "ideas you can bounce off", games to dissociate from ego view. Ego still there. 

1) Labels.labels.labels.labels.

2) Are you projecting? Because everything you say seems perfectly applicable to you

3) I can tell you think you have it all figured out. What makes you so sure you are right?

 

Edited April 8, 2016 by Harry

[SkyPanther]

4 minutes ago, Socrates said:

@SkyPanther Buddy. You game is trancend and repress. Ego still there. Still active. But ouside realm of awareness. Your Buddhism doesnt allow for authntic self. I says all self is ego. So tries to obliterate self sense and in doind so drives shadow underground underneath facade of peace and detatchment from view. 

The fact you think work is fun means you are.nowhere near doing the real task. But it is fun to use Buddhism to construct a red liberal.ideolody to keep.the ego in power over the rest.of.world.

Liberalism is red.mate. Red in denial..that's all.it is. Just because you know what "regressive left" means intellectually doesn't mean you free of it. You act it out all.time while intellectualising it away with fake doctrine, concepts, layers of concept from videos, website other people opinion, "ideas you can bounce off", games to dissociate from ego view. Ego still there. 

Yes nomad, you have figured me out.