Concentration vs. Awareness in Mindfulness Meditation

[Jack River]

@DrewNows fasho .. ??

[Jack River]

1 minute ago, Bluff said:

And claiming that concentration is all bad won't help.

It’s not bad dude. It’s what it is. I just said it was concentration. 

[Bluff]

6 minutes ago, Jack River said:

It’s not bad dude. It’s what it is. I just said it was concentration. 

but, as concentration is as it is, it's not unhealthy nor does it necessarily cause issues as you said.

good night folks

[Jack River]

@Bluff lol using concentration/thought to end psychological problems is unhealthy my man. It’s the cause of psychological conflict. Concentration/thought has its place fosho. There is no NOW if it’s applied psychologically. This understood when we understand thought/“the me”

Edited October 15, 2018 by Jack River

[Jack River]

@Bluff a beer for a bro?

[Bluff]

@Jack River

first - who said that he is trying to end any psychological problems?

second - concentration = the cause of psychological conflict?!

wtf  please contemplate this

 

Edited October 15, 2018 by Bluff

[Thesingularity]

I think concentration can  be the  precursor to awareness .You train concentration to increase your attention span that can help you to be able to focus on your breath fully on every nook and crannies, the temperature, the sensation and the flow . the awareness that means the state in witch you control 100% of your psychic energy and in science call the Optimal experience. 

[Jack River]

12 minutes ago, Bluff said:

first - who said that he is trying to end any psychological problems?

Someone brought up enlightenment. That’s why I brought up psychological time. 

 

13 minutes ago, Bluff said:

second - concentration = the cause of psychological conflict?!

Applying concentration which is thought movement to reach psychological satisfaction/security actually keeps that dissatisfaction/insecurity alive dude. You don’t understand that? Or you do? 

[Jack River]

11 minutes ago, Thesingularity said:

the awareness that means the state in witch you control 100% of your psychic energy and in science call the Optimal experience. 

Control and concentration are the same. Control is divided attention. Attention or awareness is not divided and not controlled one bit. That’s the awsome part about this. The self=controller, divided attention, concentration, psychologically time. All of that comes from thought. Thought is hella gnarly isn’t it. 

Edited October 15, 2018 by Jack River

[Jack River]

1 hour ago, DrewNows said:

There are So many ways in which fear plays a role in your daily life. Be conscious in your human interactions, habits, roles you play, nagging thoughts past/future, ideas of  psychological becoming and security, and emotions especially in triggered situations. All of this is “opportunity” to see/understand thought/self and see through the veil.  

Nice dude. Fosho!!

[DrewNows]

Using concentration to escape mind chatter. the practice only feeds the division perpetuating it 

[Jack River]

1 minute ago, DrewNows said:

Using concentration to escape mind chatter. the practice only feeds the division perpetuating it 

Yep...not very healthy. Using concentration to learn a language.ok??

Edited October 15, 2018 by Jack River

[Hellspeed]

What would you do when you will want to focus on the 5 centers, with split awareness in 5 parts? to open the 6th?

 

[DrewNows]

Haven’t the foggiest idea...maybe do nothing? 

@Jack River do you concur? ?

[Thesingularity]

@Jack River Your psychic energy is your attention and you are fully in control of that. 

[Jack River]

32 minutes ago, Hellspeed said:

What would you do when you will want to focus on the 5 centers, with split awareness in 5 parts? to open the 6th?

 

Apply more concentration. Invent and project  an image of opening the 6th. More psychological time trying to cultivate kundalini experience 

[Jack River]

1 minute ago, Thesingularity said:

@Jack River Your psychic energy is your attention and you are fully in control of that. 

What is psychic energy? Desire? And if so are you in Control of that? Or is psychic energy ”you”, and you think you are different from that that ”you” want to control? 

[Jack River]

27 minutes ago, DrewNows said:

Haven’t the foggiest idea...maybe do nothing? 

@Jack River do you concur? ?

Lol 

Edited October 15, 2018 by Jack River

[Thesingularity]

@Jack River You aren't paying attention. we are Information mechanisms, we are able to receive and produce information. You are at any time receive some information that you pay attention to and ignore the rest because of brain ability to process limited information at the time. Your brain chooses the information for you in accordance to  your usual state of mind. Most of it is trained by environment and all these practises is to reprogram your brain to be in your favour not against you. 

[DrewNows]

10 minutes ago, Jack River said:

Apply more concentration. Invent and project  an image of opening the 6th. More psychological time trying to cultivate kundalini experience 

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