Question about the nature of thought

[Jack River]

11 minutes ago, lmfao said:

@MM1988

But let me ask you, from where does the intention/want to think of something specific come from? Lets suppose I've decided that I'm going to keep on thinking about the names of different cities. How did that decision arise? Consider how much control ''you'' really have in your mind choosing to (focus on)/(think about) a particular thing.

Be mindful of your present moment experience, you should start to notice how spontaneous and groundless reality is. In your present moment, there is no past or causality. There is this present moment experience and you've done nothing to create it. For as long as you can maintain high levels of awareness you will be in a state of " Wu Wei " to a degree, where all action you take is effortless due to you having little resistance. A thought related to Wu Wei, If someone is to truly live and breathe non-duality they should find no amount of exertion of their physical body to be mentally fatiguing because the distinction between self and other is gone. That's why exercise and discomfort is good for enlightenment work imo as well if you are mindfull of pain and push yourself.

Only thought/self pursues the goal of “enlightenment” dude. Where there is desire that present moment experience is really the result of memory/past. 

[Consilience]

@Jack River How does one begin on the path if there is no initial desire to understand? What was your journey like in the beginning? Did you spontaneously drop all desires and identifications, or was there a force, a curiosity of some sort pushing you to learn?

[Jack River]

22 minutes ago, Consilience said:

@Jack River How does one begin on the path if there is no initial desire to understand? What was your journey like in the beginning? Did you spontaneously drop all desires and identifications, or was there a force, a curiosity of some sort pushing you to learn?

When desire/will/time stops feeding itself then we can explore without the burden of the bias that reward and punishment as a motive brings about. Desire always searches for an explanation. Desire can never act and end “things” of the mind. Desire projects the image and pursues the image. The image and desire both the same movement of thought. When we see it it’s an instant ending of that pattern of thought or psychological time. Pretty gnarly.

Edited October 14, 2018 by Jack River

[Jack River]

Every movement/direction thought takes to solve its own problem feeds itself. An insight into that whole movement is intelligence that simply doesn’t touch it any longer. So we are really stepping out of the patterns of thought/time totally. We waste our life moving in the pattern of time. We either stop that or we keep at it. I’m glad that is not a pattern I live in anymore dude.

Edited October 14, 2018 by Jack River

[Jack River]

If we started understanding thought this would all be so obvious. But we avoid understanding because we are reward bound. We have to stay with what is to understand it. And not escape before understanding. That’s what Desire does. Desire = fear 

Edited October 14, 2018 by Jack River

[Consilience]

@Jack River Thank you for the insights d00d 

[Jack River]

@Consilience thank you dude. That question is common but worth asking fosho. 

[SoonHei]

@Jack River my dude!!!

How do you live now?

You are always Living and talking and preaching from the NOW? and even the talking/thinking/understanding you do, it's all from a place where YOU are watching and not doing anything?

[Jack River]

@SoonHei i live very simply dude. Every day is appreciated.

Edited October 14, 2018 by Jack River