TJ Reeves talks about how to embody stages of spiral dynamics.

[CreamCat]

In the latest video of TJ Reeves, he talks about how to embody stages of spiral dynamics. I will start again with embodying Beige because I suck at managing my body and mind. I didn't even properly embody Red and Blue, either. I suck at Orange and Green, too! Start over from the beginning again. I'll master each stage before moving up.

 

 

• Beige // Survival
  • Sleep for 7~8 hours a day
  • Exercise for 30 minutes at least 4-5 times a week. Otherwise, your body will shut down, and you become depressed
  • Eat right // Cut sugar out of your diet. Your liver cannot process a lot of sugar.
  • NoFap // NoFap increases the level of testosterone which is needed for accomplishments
  • Breathing // Mouth breathing can lead to bad sleep and dementia and low intelligence
  • Meditation // You need to warm up your mind with meditation in the morning before you start work
• Purple // Magical thinking, tribalistic thinking
  • It occurs while you rely as a toddler on your family and traditions in order to survive.
  • You need good relationships with your mother and your father.
  • You need a minimum of 5 friends who meet the following 3 criteria
    • They must support you when you are doing well
    • They must be able to listen to you when you are doing poorly
    • They must be able to understand you. If they cannot understand you, they are not appropriately your friend. They are nice to have around, but they are not friends.
  • Without appropriate traditions, appropriate schedules, and appropriate rituals, you will be living in a lot of chaos.
• Red
  • People are afraid of unhealthy aspects of Red, but healthy red is essential.
  • Red is heroic. Without healthy red, you cannot become a world leader or the person you can be.
  • Without red, you will be a weakling.
  • Red is where we get heroic gods and people who go for more and those individuals who are crazy enough to test the limits at all times.
  • A red person doesn't care at all about varying from one's values and principles. One sticks to them.
  • If you are passive, you will allow bullshits in our society to run rampant.
  • Red is focused on aligning the course it want to be with the course it is on until there is no gap between the two.
  • Red works toward the ability to create what it wants to create without having it backfire.
• Blue
  • Blue is most about having principles and values for the greater whole. It is a code of ethics for how you work and act.
  • 5 principles and values that will not fail you, no matter the context
    • Love // Love is empowerment through connection to God. if you are not operating out of love, you are probably not taking the right action
      • Love is infinitely powerful. Yet, the limitations we place on ourselves are also infinitely powerful. We need to eliminate limitations one by one.
    • Honesty and truth // Truth will set you free and help you. Speak truth at all times. It takes healthy red because it takes saying some mean things sometimes.
    • A sense of groundedness
      • It is a principle on having principles.
      • Groundedness means you are operating from a place where no outside factors will be changing your overall mindset.
      • It is also about establishing and sticking to disciplines and practices for yourself to be the best version of yourself.
      • You take them seriously to take advantage of your time, energy, mind, and all these different habits that allow you to build up skillsets neccesary to become a master in your own life.
    • Openness
      • One sticks to one's principles at all time such that one is open-minded.
      • True skepticism is being skeptical of one's own skepticism.
      • True openmindedness seeks greater knowledge and greater awareness at all times.
    • Never numb yourself in any way, shape, or form. No numbing with drugs, sex, relationships, TV, books, and so on.
• Orange
  • Orange is a rational-based mindset. When you unlock Orange, you unlock the ability to see things through cold pure observational calculation which is a great ability to unlock.
  • If you don't have the other levels in a healthy way, then you are only going to see things through a rational mindset.
  • You're going to end up as an athiest and with stupid issue of free will.
  • We need healthy Orange because healthy Orange is able to operate within Blue-level rulesets to carry out Red-level power.
  • Money is fucking important. It's your fucking obligation to make as much money as possible.
  • Create your own business, master skillsets, go after achivements and wins, be proud of achivements, and strive for progress and betterment.
  • Healthy Orange can create so many win-win situations.
  • To deny it is simply ridiculous. To deny it is to leave yourself in a place of waiting around in misery.
• Green
  • Green is more relativist.
  • Green loves calming down the most pissed off and people who are the most in pain.
  • If we are going to lead a revolution in humanity, we are going to have to do it with compassion.
  • Green is where we see the importance of making sure that people at the bottom level are given the appropriate toolset to go out and do what they need to do.
  • Green is not about becoming a useless freaking dirty hippie. It is not about talking about what gender identity you have.
  • Green without all the other stages properly integrated is unhealthy Green.
  • Unhealthy Green is about making an identity out of every single minority, apologizing to that, and making it so that everyone has to waste their time in order to fit these people who are on the extreme ends that really don't make up too much of the population.
  • There are lots of Green pseudo-spiritualists who think they are the most highly spiritual but have all other stages incredibly weakly developed.
  • Green properly done is like calculus. It is very difficult.
  • What unlocks with Green is the fact that you realize that one of the biggest issues with people is that they are not experiencing the appropriate level of love they could have experienced. It's love in actual interpersonal relations and behavioral love in getting the resources they need.
• Yellow
  • It is a baby just as beige is a baby.
  • It understands the world doesn't operate on black and white thinking.
  • Yellow understands the value of life and all the different perspectives that exist.
  • Yellow balances perspectives.
  • It is balancing and recognition of all the different perspectives that exist.
  • It is recognition that they must work together in a nice calculating manner to see the different systems and different chaotic variables that must be taken into account.
  • You are not going to graduate with healthy Yellow unless you understand things like bayesian reasoning and three body problem and feedback loop and how to build a system that exists without you.
  • If you can't build or observe a system that exists without you, you are not appropriately graudating from Yellow.
  • For the first time in Spiral Dynamics, it thinks problems cannot be solved in the same consciousness that created that problem.
    • Yellow doesn't take this idea to its extreme. So, it looks at every other variable except for consciousness itself.
  • When people reach yellow, they become more individual because they realize how held back everybody else is and go off on their own to do things.
  • What's missing people from Yellow is mystical aspects. You haven't graduated properly until you learn and master systems theory, examine all other systems, and then exit when you recognize that the final system to work on is consciousness and the self.
  • When a person examines truth of questions, they all lead the same path back to love, consciousness, and truth.
  • It's when you recognize it that you can become turquoise.
• Turquoise
  • It recognizes that there are other realms to thought than everyday life.
  • Turquoise is an enlightened version of purple.
  • It is the recognition that absolutely everything is consciousness and that you are every single person you've talked to and met.
  • It is the recognition that everything is absolutely perfect.
  • It is the recognition that the universe looks through your eyes and the universe is within you.
  • It is the recognition that every single person and thing is made out of you.
  • It travels to new realms and open up to other possibilities that exist.
  • There are realms you can dive into to observe and obtain answers. This is collective consciousness.
  • You can access collective consciousness through meditation, psychedelics, near-death experiences, sky-diving, and so on.
  • When you reach the appropriate state, you get into the place called the STER state.
    • Selfless, timeless, effortless, and full of richness
    • This state basically occurs between theta and alpha states of the brain.
    • It's in this state that you can have some of the deepest answers in the universe. You can just have universal downloads.
  • There are other states we can dial into
  • It's important to develop into healthy Turquoise and then dial into other realms.
• Coral
  • When you recognize that you are not just universe but also responsibility, you move to Coral.
  • It takes full responsibility for this universe.
  • It would take full responsibility for prevention of extinction-level events.
  • An example of this is Thanos. Thanos killed half of all life forms in the universe to save itself from malthusian disasters. If Thanos fought the right fight, the universe would become better.
• Teal
  • It recognizes abilities and powers of people and slot them in appropriately
  • It has connection to cosmic awareness which gives awareness of impending threats and allows one to issue out energy and absorb energy.

Edited October 11, 2018 by CreamCat

[Joseph Maynor]

20 minutes ago, CreamCat said:

In the latest video of TJ Reeves, he talks about how to embody stages of spiral dynamics. I will embody stages from Beige again because I suck at managing my body and mind.

 

 

• Beige // Survival
  • Sleep for 7~8 hours a day
  • Exercise for 30 minutes at least 4-5 times a week. Otherwise, your body will shut down, and you become depressed
  • Eat right // Cut sugar out of your diet. Your liver cannot process a lot of sugar.
  • NoFap // NoFap increases your the level of testosterone which is needed for accomplishments
  • Breathing // Shallow breathing can lead to bad sleep and dementia and low intelligence
  • Meditation // You need to warm up your mind with meditation in the morning before you start work
• Purple // Magical thinking, tribalistic thinking
  • It occurs while you rely as a toddler on your family and traditions in order to survive.
  • You need good relationships with your mother and your father.
  • You need a minimum of 5 friends who meet the following 3 criteria
    • They must support you when you are doing well
    • They must be able to listen to you when you are doing poorly
    • They must be able to understand you. If they cannot understand you, they are not appropriately your friend. They are nice to have around, but they are not friends.
  • Without appropriate traditions, appropriate schedules, and appropriate rituals, you will be living in a lot of chaos.
• Red
  • People are afraid of unhealthy aspects of Red, but healthy red is essential.
  • Red is heroic. Without healthy red, you cannot become a world leader or the person you can be.
  • Without red, you will be a weakling.
  • Red is where we get heroic gods and people who go for more and those individuals who are crazy enough to test the limits at all times.
  • A red person doesn't care at all about varying from one's values and principles. One sticks to them.
  • If you are passive, you will allow bullshits in our society to run rampant.
  • Red is focused on aligning the course it want to be with the course it is on until there is no gap between the two.
  • Red works toward the ability to create what it wants to create without having it backfire.
• Blue
  • Blue is most about having principles and values for the greater whole. It is a code of ethics for how you work and act.
  • 5 principles and values that will not fail you, no matter the context
    • Love // Love is empowerment through connection to God. if you are not operating out of love, you are probably not taking the right action
      • Love is infinitely powerful. Yet, the limitations we place on ourselves are also infinitely powerful. We need to eliminate limitations one by one.
    • Honesty and truth // Truth will set you free and help you. Speak truth at all times. It takes healthy red because it takes saying some mean things sometimes.
    • A sense of groundedness
      • It is a principle on having principles.
      • Groundedness means you are operating from a place where no outside factors will be changing your overall mindset.
      • It is also about establishing and sticking to disciplines and practices for yourself to be the best version of yourself.
      • You take them seriously to take advantage of your time, energy, mind, and all these different habits that allow you to build up skillsets neccesary to become a master in your own life.
    • Openness
      • One sticks to one's principles at all time such that one is open-minded.
      • True skepticism is being skeptical of one's own skepticism.
      • True openmindedness seeks greater knowledge and greater awareness at all times.
    • Never numb yourself in any way, shape, or form. No numbing with drugs, sex, relationships, TV, books, and so on.
• Orange
  • Orange is a rational-based mindset. When you unlock Orange, you unlock the ability to see things through cold pure observational calculation which is a great ability to unlock.
  • If you don't have the other levels in a healthy way, then you are only going to see things through a rational mindset.
  • You're going to end up as an athiest and with stupid issue of free will.
  • We need healthy Orange because healthy Orange is able to operate within Blue-level rulesets to carry out Red-level power.
  • Money is fucking important. It's your fucking obligation to make as much money as possible.
  • Create your own business, master skillsets, go after achivements and wins, be proud of achivements, and strive for progress and betterment.
  • Healthy Orange can create so many win-win situations.
  • To deny it is simply ridiculous. To deny it is to leave yourself in a place of waiting around in misery.
• Green
  • Green is more relativist.
  • Green loves calming down the most pissed off and people who are the most in pain.
  • If we are going to lead a revolution in humanity, we are going to have to do it with compassion.
  • Green is where we see the importance of making sure that people at the bottom level are given the appropriate toolset to go out and do what they need to do.
  • Green is not about becoming a useless freaking dirty hippie. It is not about talking about what gender identity you have.
  • Green without all the other stages properly integrated is unhealthy Green.
  • Unhealthy Green is about making an identity out of every single minority, apologizing to that, and making it so that everyone wastes their time in order to fit these people who are on the extreme ends that really don't make too much of the population.
  • There are lots of Green pseudo-spiritualists who think they are the most highly spiritual but have all other stages incredibly weakly developed.
  • Green properly done is like calculus. It is very difficult.
  • What unlocks with Green is the fact that you realize that one of the biggest issues with people is that they are not experiencing the appropriate level of love they could have experienced. It's love in actual interpersonal relations and behavioral love in getting the resources they need.
• Yellow
  • It is a baby just as beige is a baby.
  • It understand the world doesn't operate on black and white thinking.
  • Yellow understands the value of life and all the different perspectives that exist.
  • Yellow balances perspectives.
  • It is balancing and recognition of all the different perspectives that exist.
  • It is recognition that they must work together in a nice calculating manner to see the different systems and different chaotic variables that must be taken into account.
  • You are not going to graduate with healthy Yellow unless you undertand things like bayesian reasoning and three body problem and feedback loop and how to build a system that exists without you.
  • If you can't build or observe a system that exists without you, you are not appropriately graudating from Yellow.
  • For the first time in Spiral Dynamics, it thinks problems cannot be solved in the same consciousness that created that problem.
  • When people reach yellow, they become more individual because they realize how held back everybody else is and go off on their own to do things.
  • What's missing people from Yellow is mystical aspects. You haven't graduated properly until you learn and master systems theory, examine all other systems, and then exit when you recognize that the final system to work on is consciousness and the self.
  • When a person examines truth of questions, they all lead the same path back to love, consciousness, and truth.
  • It's when you recognize it that you can become turquoise.
• Turquoise
  • It recognizes that there are other realms to thought than everyday life.
  • Turquoise is an enlightened version of purple.
  • It is the recognition that absolutely everything is consciousness and that you are every single person you've talked to and met.
  • It is the recognition that everything is absolutely perfect.
  • It is the recognition that the universe looks through your eyes and the universe is within you.
  • It is the recognition that every single person and thing is made out of you.
  • It travels to new realms and open up to other possibilities that exist.
  • There are realms you can dive into to observe and obtain answers. This is collective consciousness.
  • You can access collective consciousness through meditation, psychedelics, near-death experiences, sky-diving, and so on.
  • When you reach the appropriate state, you get into the place called the STER state.
    • Selfless, timeless, effortless, and full of richness
    • This state basically occurs between theta and alpha states of the brain.
    • It's in this state that you can have some of the deepest answers in the universe. You can just have universal downloads.
  • There are other states we can dial into
  • It's important to develop into healthy Turquoise and then dial into other realms.
• Coral
  • It takes full responsibility for this universe.
• Teal
  • It recognizes abilities and powers of people and slot them in appropriately
  • It has connection to comic awareness which gives awareness of impending threats and allows one to issue out energy and absorb energy.

Why so little detail about Coral?  I could write a book on Coral alone.

Edited October 11, 2018 by Joseph Maynor

[CreamCat]

@Joseph Maynor I don't know. Ask TJ Reeves. I just added more details to clarify Coral.

Edited October 11, 2018 by CreamCat

[kieranperez]

1. Interesting take on the use of Spiral Dynamics. 
2. @CreamCat @Joseph Maynor There’s really not that much of a point in talking about Coral, Teal, etc. the information is out there sure but the amount of time it takes to really embody all these parts of the Spiral takes a long time more often than not. Less %0.001 of the global population is at Turquioise. How about we get there first and then continue? It’s not talked about because the demand isn’t there. The demand is more for getting into the 2nd Tier. 

I personally find this whole TJ bashing people like Sadhguru, @Leo Gura , etc. to be just silly and a waste of time and actually hypocritical. He talks about how these people give off all this stuff about what enlightenment is and is not, how they’re all wrong (as though he knows them personally), that they’re full of shit, they’re fake, that they put on a mask of what enlightenment is and all this stuff in yet at the same time by definition of what he’s doing and saying and the way he’s doing is no different from that which he’s criticizing. He goes on this rants on enlightened gurus and enlightened youtubers and stuff and it’s like dude ‘you yourself are trying to tell other people what enlightenment is, how everybody else out there is except for the people you study are wrong and or full of shit, how you have it right, etc.’

I don’t know TJ at all. Seems like a developed guy for the most part. He personally doesn’t like me that much (gave me some advice that was helpful on IG and then saw I gave some criticism about him here on the forum and then went off on some rant on how I and these guys on the forum are full of shit and blocked me). However, the overall concern and approach over AI and how we need to wake up to the realities of what might come in the near future I think hold ground and need to be looked at. He just needs to chill the fuck out. 

[thehero]

@kieranperez seems like it's a massive was of projection 

[kieranperez]

2 minutes ago, thehero said:

@kieranperez seems like it's a massive was of projection 

I don’t know. I’m not enlightened, not that far along the Spiral, etc.

Maybe. He’s farther along than I am so hey, maybe I’m wrong. I’m open to that. Maybe he’s right about Leo, Sadhguru, and whoever else he deems unenlightened and deluded being a quack about nonduality and what not. I’m not enlightened so I can’t be here saying whose right and whose wrong about the nature of reality. My job is to discover it, be open as fuck, assume I’m wrong, etc.

I just don’t see, from all that I study and practice, a deeply enlightened person needing to fit some sort of bill. I get it, he’s studied with Ralston and has done lots of 5-MeO. Cool. I just don’t think this approach to saying ‘fuck all these quacks and phonies, I’ve studied with the real ones and know the truth,’ is one grounded in greater wisdom or greater perspective. I’d put money down he’s never met @Leo Gura so I don’t think he’s in a position where I can take his criticism of Leo being some phony very seriously. 

[Joseph Maynor]

34 minutes ago, thehero said:

@kieranperez seems like it's a massive was of projection 

If you're gonna make a conclusory statement without any support, at least make one that makes semantic sense.

Edited October 14, 2018 by Joseph Maynor

[thehero]

@Joseph Maynor his claims on leo are so ridiculous and come as a judgement 

Judgements are often projections

Ridiculous because that is so far off from what Leo actually is or does 

[CreamCat]

No human is perfect. Leo has flaws. TJ has flaws. I have flaws.

If Leo was perfect, he would be levitating effortlessly right now.

Edited October 14, 2018 by CreamCat

[Avidya]

Does anyone have a link to the video? I see that this video is no longer available. 

[OBEler]

Same