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NoFap advised for young people?

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On 10/13/2018 at 7:43 PM, Andreas said:

Didn’t read it. Just heard it and needed to provide proof. Did some research on this before. 

By the way. If you want to convince someone who is asking a question, do not express your point of view to them and get mad because they don’t agree with your explanation. I think you are the one being reactionary. Instead of trying to ‘expose’ people like a bully, explore the other parts perspective. It would help people take you more seriously. 

How do i know? Common sense. Did you know most SSRI drugs don’t pass the nocebo-effect in studies? I don’t see how this is any different. 

 

https://www.google.no/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/women-who-stray/201503/the-nofap-phenomenon%3famp

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/NoFap

https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2017/03/27/fighting-the-porn-myth-with-science/

I am not bullying you, maybe you should do some nofap so you stop being so emotionally sensitive? :D

The reason why I asked whether you read it or not is the following:

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There’s no proof that ejaculating more actually causes lower chances of prostate cancer. For now, doctors just know they’re connected. It may be that men who do it more tend to have other healthy habits that are lowering their odds.

This is super important, because the same argument is used by Cholesterol deniers, when they claim that people who have low cholesterol actually are unhealthy because there is a correlation between low cholesterol and death. Well, it happens to be the case that if you happen to be sick, your cholesterol is lowered. And it might very well be the case that if you have prostate cancer, your libido might be lowered. This is why correlation does not equal causation.

Look, to me it's very clear that you do not really do your research and are just here to bash on something you do not understand or do not find appealing. None of the links you have presented give us even one good argument for why Nofap would be a placebo. You keep making health claims on this forum without backing it up whatsoever. You still have to provide evidence for 45% increase in serum testosterone to be non-significant, but of course you will not.

https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/

There is not a lot of research done on the long term effects of abstaining from sexual activity (there is on porn, however), and it is very hard to find study participants who would be willing to take part in such a study. Either way, if you want to be rational you should adopt a position of agnosticism on this topic, but I can see you have invested far too much emotion in your position.

 

In the end it does not even matter whether it is placebo or not, because it is absolutely life-changing. Not a single piece of advice I got from Leo benefited me even remotely as much as the practice of Nofap, and that is saying a lot.

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