Chasing fantoms

[petar8p]

Is this self-actualization work, self-inquiry, trying to percieve the perciever, direct consciousness work, is this merely a next attempt to try to fill your void inside? 
Are you running away from feeling shitty, or are you diving into WHY you're assuming such a thing in the first place? 
 

I'm not accusing, I'm just asking to see your perspective because it popped into my mind while watching this video that this may be another chase, a deeper and more mystical one though.. 
 

Also, what do you think his stage is on spiral dynamics model? Green? Turqoise?
Would love to hear your thoughts, especially Leo's.

Edited October 1, 2018 by petar8p
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[Sven]

Just for the first part of the question: If done correctly, consciousness work is the polar opposite of trying to run away from anything shitty. But it's almost never (completely) done correctly, hence why Leo recommends for example not to idolize him (which, a lot of us fall into this trap,) and instead do your own research etc etc etc. 

[NoSelfSelf]

Stage purple hes the tribe leader  ????

[petar8p]

2 hours ago, Sven said:

Just for the first part of the question: If done correctly, consciousness work is the polar opposite of trying to run away from anything shitty. But it's almost never (completely) done correctly, hence why Leo recommends for example not to idolize him (which, a lot of us fall into this trap,) and instead do your own research etc etc etc. 

How do you make sure that you do it correctly?

[YaNanNallari]

If it's done wrong it's done wrong. Look into koans. What I mean is that if you want to know the answer using self-inquiry, of course you won't get it through the actual thoughts. It's a technique that forces you to be aware for the answer.

I think he is mainly orange with bits and pieces from above of course

[petar8p]

1 hour ago, YaNanNallari said:

If it's done wrong it's done wrong. Look into koans. What I mean is that if you want to know the answer using self-inquiry, of course you won't get it through the actual thoughts. It's a technique that forces you to be aware for the answer.

I think he is mainly orange with bits and pieces from above of course

Care to elaborate as to why you think he's orange?

[Sven]

On 1-10-2018 at 1:52 PM, petar8p said:

How do you make sure that you do it correctly?

What I do is I tell myself: "When you think you've got it, you're back at square one" (unless you catch yourself before you have that thought). It's a lot of back and forth and back and forth until you get dizzy and want to give up but remember giving up is not an option... Or something like that.

But I don't really know what it even means to do it correctly ... Definitely not me you should be asking, maybe only yourself... But I am trying to figure this out myself