Salvia Video on Leo's Blog

[No-Thing]

In the video the guy stated "the voices in my head were convincing me that whatever I was thinking is the new truth but I was able to be sober enough to remember that I was on salvia". Here is where the misconception lies. He has this idea of what is truth, like he is this man in this world taking salvia and entering the salvia space. But in actuality neither the salvia space nor the current apparent reality is true. If you take something like salvia you come to realize that an altered state of being feels just as real as your current state of being, so you start questioning your current reality.

That realization still has nothing to do with enlightenment. The path of enlightenment is the path of stopping to react to the dream as if it was real. Every thought and every sensation needs to be seen through as illusion. ultimately you reach the primordial thought/sensation "I AM", which also also has to be seen as illusion. Then you collapse back into who you actually are and truth is realized. The problem is that the substance of what you currently think you are is the reaction to the dream so how can reaction stop reacting?

As a sidenote. If you have an interest of exploring psychedelics, then that is an interest in the mind which is the opposite direction of enlightenment. For absolute rest all interests need to come to rest.

(I'm still full of shit for writing in this forum thinking there is anyone out there needing my advice. Just an old pattern )

Edited September 29, 2018 by No-Thing

[Leo Gura]

@No-Thing No quite. Psychedelics can reveal the Absolute and many other valid insights.

Psychedelics are not the opposite of enlightenment. You have to distinguish between genuine insight and visual phenomena. All visual phenomena is relative. Genuine insight is genuine insight.

[SoonHei]

@Leo Gura a genuine insight is a deep understanding? Like does one have to do a logical deduction to distinguish it from phenomena? Or does it happen and one is sure of it, without a doubt?

 

Kinda like that punch in the face example you gave a couple of days ago. ?

[Leo Gura]

@SoonHei Contemplate: What is an insight?

Here's an example: the insight that 1 + 1 = 2

Insights can be big or small.

[SoonHei]

@Leo Gura hmmmm

Damn lol 

[SarahFernandes]

On 9/29/2018 at 7:46 AM, No-Thing said:

In the video the guy stated "the voices in my head were convincing me that whatever I was thinking is the new truth but I was able to be sober enough to remember that I was on salvia". Here is where the misconception lies. He has this idea of what is truth, like he is this man in this world taking salvia and entering the salvia space. But in actuality neither the salvia space nor the current apparent reality is true. If you take something like salvia you come to realize that an altered state of being feels just as real as your current state of being, so you start questioning your current reality.

That realization still has nothing to do with enlightenment. The path of enlightenment is the path of stopping to react to the dream as if it was real. Every thought and every sensation needs to be seen through as illusion. ultimately you reach the primordial thought/sensation "I AM", which also also has to be seen as illusion. Then you collapse back into who you actually are and truth is realized. The problem is that the substance of what you currently think you are is the reaction to the dream so how can reaction stop reacting?

As a sidenote. If you have an interest of exploring psychedelics, then that is an interest in the mind which is the opposite direction of enlightenment. For absolute rest all interests need to come to rest.

(I'm still full of shit for writing in this forum thinking there is anyone out there needing my advice. Just an old pattern )

https://www.reddit.com/r/Psychonaut/comments/fnqi4v/we_are_not_all_one_we_are_not_all_the_same/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

 

And I'm glad you know you feel like you're full of shit, since by posting advice to others, you're automatically proving your old posts false, since you contradict yourself by giving advice to people who are not you, hence they are not you, you are not me.

Edited March 24, 2020 by SarahFernandes