Terence Mckennas Machine Elves

[Nahm]

@Sockrattes Okay. 

[ttm]

 

On 10/1/2018 at 0:13 AM, Sockrattes said:

@Nahm

Thank you. I would love to tell you what they've asked me, but i can't. It's a heavy burden i have to carry and it's crushing me. But they've told me, it would be better not to talk about this. Honestly i wouldn't even know how to explain this.

At this moment, i'm not confident enough to talk about this.

But i would like warn you: When you are experiencing those elves, double-triple-octuple-check everything they are saying. It took me a long time to realise, that there are "two opposing groups" of these entities. They are basically indistinguishable. That's really challenging.

But to be fair: It's possible, that they are only pretending to be two conflicting groups. But check it for yourself.

And be prepared: Some of those entities have an infinitely loving and caring warmth in their eyes. When i first saw that, i instantly wanted to be like that. I know... probably it's my ego speaking here. But once i have seen this, i couldn't stop thinking about that. It's overwhelming.

Hi. You should consider, that when you are experiencing "those elves", it's still ALL YOU. Now, when you say that you should check everything they are saying, and that there are "opposing groups" (I assume by that you mean that they have "different messages") - think about this: isn't that exactly like with your everyday thoughts? That "elves asked me a question and told me that I shouldn't talk about it"-business sounds a lot like you're creating yet another private bubble for yourself to exist as something separate from others. Isn't that exactly what we do regardless of whether we believe in elves or not? We believe in "I", and it's clear proof of "I"'s existance, that there's this place where "I" can have all these problems and questions and challenges "I" should do something about and nobody else could ever undestand, no?

 

On 10/1/2018 at 0:13 AM, Sockrattes said:

Honestly i can't believe, that i'm writing all this. Compared to this, that Scientology-Xenu-Stuff sounds at least a bit believable. I know that. I guess this is partially the reason no-one believes me.

 

I have no hard time to believe that what you have described is your experience of what have happened. The nature of experience is just widely misunderstood, as it feels so real, it's held as if it's the objective reality. And of course, everyone thinks that they experience the reality as it is, but those, who don't experience it the same way, are either liars or crazy people...

[AlwaysBeNice]

Yeah I also got into this through drugs and Terrence McKenna 7 years ago, held the 'machine elves' up to a high standard and still do but not as an authority, I've also had sober times of awakening with them.

Never the less, my life is not about them, I don't tend to really think of 'them' anymore, it's one aspect of manifest reality, they are not really a separate domain of intelligence, it's all part of the one life flow, coming from (deep)Self. 

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And to me, it's not really practical to think of them in my daily life, it's the same as playing in real life but more with imagination/prayer, I have not much interest in it, doesn't tend to help my mental health, and it's happens (best) on it's own anyways.

Learning to be in silence is actually more fulfilling and peaceful, and useful for me.

And coming into 'empty' universal consciousness creates deeper awakenings than previously seemed possible, albeit there might be apparently less magic and stuff, which might actually be really nice and useful as well. (but people that go through that are still also people and also still no authority:)

[purerogue]

You are talking about this Universe, Absolute is something you will never get to understand in your lifetime, Absolute is infinite in infinite realities, with infinite possibilities. 

 

Edited December 16, 2018 by purerogue

[TheAvatarState]

@Sockrattes The "Absolute" is a word which points to something. That something cannot be symbolized or thought of. It lies beyond concept (and including it). Which means by definition, these machine elves must be a part of the Absolute. Because if they lay outside infinity, then infinity would immediately have to include them to stay infinity. If these machine elves were beyond nonduality, then you'd have to explain  what they are and how they got there... Which gives you the same problem doesn't it? The true essence of everything is nothing. Groundless ground. As it must be! Really try to understand this, if you have any questions let me know. 

These machine elves ARE you. They are projections of infinite consciousness, resulting in a first-person experience or appearance. Does this mean you're going insane? Of course not! By that definition, we're all clinically insane, because this is nothing more than a mass hallucination! There's no objective hallucination that's more valid than the other. It's all you. It's all perception. Be open to the possibility that these elves are trying to tell you something extremely important. And listen with an open mind.