Most Important Practices

[Barry J]

This practice vs non-practice debate is getting boring

 

To those that “get it” it is obvious and to those that don’t it is confusing

Edited September 28, 2018 by Barry J

[Jack River]

12 hours ago, Consilience said:

You’re right, Im sorry.

 

what do you mean by all techniques reinforce ego?

 Technique to get somewhere...resist what is? 

Is there freedom in that? 

[Jack River]

12 hours ago, Barry J said:

This practice vs non-practice debate is getting boring

 

To those that “get it” it is obvious and to those that don’t it is confusing

Fosho man. But Debating or choosing between practice or non-practice means we don’t understand what the hell is going on. 

[Consilience]

53 minutes ago, Jack River said:

 Technique to get somewhere...resist what is? 

Is there freedom in that? 

If you think techniques inherently go “somewhere” then we have different perceptions of the place and purpose of various meditation techniques. Which goes back to my point, I disagree and to each his own.

What “is” is a world with many beings living in illusion. Depending on the depth if the illusion, practicing a technique may serve as a way to quiet said illusion. Once a threshold of being is achieved however, all techniques must be dropped.

 

To not see the value in practicing techniques would be a foolish however. The path out of the matrix may not actually exist in the absolute sense, but the role of a seeker a the first step towards wht is, for some. 

Edited September 28, 2018 by Consilience

[Jack River]

1 minute ago, Consilience said:

practicing a technique may serve as a way to quiet said illusion. Once a threshold of being is achieved however,

Can there be a ‘quietness’ if there is conflict? 

The achieved part.. is there a reward to be had? 

[Consilience]

Just now, Jack River said:

Can there be a ‘quietness’ if there is conflict? 

The achieved part.. is there a reward to be had? 

If there is conflict, there cannot be quietness. If there is not quietness, the illusion may persist. In this perspective, a technique may be a path towards subduing the conflict, carving the eventual persistence in being.

 

There is no reward, there is only impermanence and an eventual transformation

[Jack River]

1 minute ago, Consilience said:

In this perspective, a technique may be a path towards subduing the conflict, carving the eventual persistence in being.

 

Does a technique, path, subduing create conflict? 

[Consilience]

3 minutes ago, Jack River said:

Does a technique, path, subduing create conflict? 

After an inflection point in being-ness, yes. If one cannot “be” not necessarily. And herein lies my disagreement. I see your perspective, but I see the relativity in what you’re saying as well. 

If a mantra brings one closer to being, they should follow that technique. Equally, this technique may one day create the conflict it once had subdued 

[Jack River]

2 minutes ago, Consilience said:

If a mantra brings one closer to being, they should follow that technique.

If there is motive to ‘become’, as in desire, or fear, can that lead to being-freedom?

Edited September 28, 2018 by Jack River

[Consilience]

@Jack River We should respect the original intent of the post, so for now lets stop our discussion. I believe if you are to understand my perspective, there's enough for you to reflect on. I also believe I understand where you are coming from in the absolute sense, so thank you for the clarification. 

 

Edited September 28, 2018 by Consilience

[Jack River]

24 minutes ago, Consilience said:

@Jack River We should respect the original intent of the post, so for now lets stop our discussion. I believe if you are to understand my perspective, there's enough for you to reflect on. I also believe I understand where you are coming from in the absolute sense, so thank you for the clarification. 

 

You got it dude. Also I don’t know what you mean by absolute perspective. 

[Amanda R Batista]

@Joseph Maynor Do you meditate for 2 hours every single day!? At the moment, I can only meditate 20 minutes per day, and I´m already experiencing the "dark side of meditation" (Leo has a video about it). 

[Amanda R Batista]

@Consilience To be honest, I usually get even more confused reading posts because everyone is so different, and has a different opinion, perspective. I just want to get out of the matrix, lol... But I have no clue how! 

[here-now]

46 minutes ago, Amanda R Batista said:

I just want to get out of the matrix, lol... But I have no clue how! 

Awareness is "outside the matrix".

Ask yourself now: "Am I aware?" And then refer to your direct experience.

As it may be helpful, here's a video of Rupert Spira guiding someone through the investigation of Awareness (staring at 23:39) :

 

 

[Joseph Maynor]

1. Mindfulness
2. Self-Inquiry
3. Contemplation
4. Meditation
5. Work with Psychedelics

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1. Shadow Work (useful at the early stage of the Path but becomes moot when Ego is transcended)

Edited October 2, 2018 by Joseph Maynor

[i am I AM]

@Joseph Maynor

2 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

1. Shadow Work (useful at the early stage of the Path but becomes moot when Ego is transcended)

How come? Is it because shadow work just happens effortlessly, or it's no longer applicable, or?

[Amanda R Batista]

@here-now Thank you! 

[here-now]

@Amanda R Batista ☺?

[kieranperez]

• Surrender (EVERYTHING)
• Honesty (example: if you're angry, don't just communicate your anger, contemplate the core of your anger and let communicate that - do that with every emotion, feeling, action, everything)
• Strong determination sitting
• Sit through boredom and all suffering... and then keep sitting through more
• Isolation

Edited October 4, 2018 by kieranperez

[herghly]

Commit to doing at least one meditation retreat a year