Leo getting more and more popular

[kev014]

This is a question directly for Leo. Obviously you've been getting bigger and bigger over the past 5 or so years. Approaching 800k followers and continuing to grow. You're starting to talk more and more about other people (Jordan Peterson, Trump, Joe Rogan, Elon, etc.) and their SD stage/psychological mistakes. I'm curious, as I'm sure other viewers probably are as well, if you're considering speaking directly with some of these people or doing in person meetings with your listeners. If I remember correctly, you said you wouldn't want to talk with Jordan Peterson because of his fans response. I'd be pretty surprised if these guys don't hear about what's going on at Actualized.org given how big you're getting and how blatantly you talk about them. What're your thoughts on becoming more of a public figure and taking your message beyond actualized.org?

[Leo Gura]

@kev014 I have little interest in doing any kind of public debates with people. That's all just a game.

Mostly I just care about putting forth my ideas. I've got enough ideas to share for years to come. Doing collabs just tends to dilute my work because I find few popular figures thinking at the integral level I like thinking at.

The problem is that the most popular public intellectuals are rather crude, un-integral, closedminded, and ideological in their approach. Which is precisely why they became popular. And precisely why I don't want to have much to do with them.

A discussion with Joe Rogan would be one exception. He and I could have a deep discussion.

The kind of stuff I like to talk about is never ever going to go mainstream.

[kev014]

@Leo Gura That makes a lot of sense, that's something that I've struggled over the past few months to understand. 'Why are these people who clearly have some limitations so popular?' I ask this more in regards to younger generations than people like JP but I can see that the underlying dynamic is that their SD stage and ideology is what makes them popular. They're able to reach people on an emotional level and poise as an expert in a particular field. Thank you for helping educate us all in this field, has seriously helped me understand my own shortcomings and how to more gracefully interact with my parents and close friends.

Are you concerned at all that you may attract someone like JP shit talking you? Not that it would prevent you from continuing to do what you do, but it seems like this would just be a big distraction for you/Actualized.org having him/his followers on here trolling.