irritability

[Ingit]

I get irritated easily over small things.... does observing seems to make my situation more worst.

[YaMayka]

I’d say to try to simply be aware of it every time it occures. Eventually you should be able to see the pattern and the source of it and hopefully heal it. That’s what I read anyway. Still struggling with it myself  if you come across a better solution, please share!

[Ingit]

@YaMayka yep sure thanks

[Torkys]

There is an aspect of you which wants you to get irritated, and another that does not. What happened now is that the aspect of you which doesn't want to get irritated got a chance to express itself. 

It's natural that it gets "worse" if you observe it because it makes the friction between these parts of more obvious. Keep on observing nonetheless. The very reason this is a problem for you is because you are used to living with lower level of awareness. 

Even though this quote may seem negative, it describes the life as an ego really well:

"There is no coming to consciousness without pain. People will do anything, no matter how absurd, in order to avoid facing their own Soul. One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the darkness conscious." - Carl Jung

Also, watch this video if you haven't already. The video doesn't describe the nuances of this statement fully but this should be able to tell you why observing works:

 

[Ingit]

On 08/09/2018 at 10:06 PM, Torkys said:

 

"There is no coming to consciousness without pain. People will do anything, no matter how absurd, in order to avoid facing their own Soul. One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the darkness conscious." - Carl Jung

 

 

???wise line

[Jack River]

On 9/8/2018 at 6:20 AM, Ingit said:

 

I get irritated easily over small things.... does observing seems to make my situation more worst.

 

Nice question man. I remember this irritating.  Who is observing?

[Jack River]

“I” use to observe “my” fears as I thought that would help me escape “them”. This made halla conflict dude. 

[Ingit]

@Jack River ITs me observing, IM aware and that what makes me feel more bad about how and why im irritated  

[Ingit]

Just now, Jack River said:

“I” use to observe “my” fears as I thought that would help me escape “them”. This made halla conflict dude. 

THen what did you do next !

[Jack River]

I have seen the freeing fact that only if conflict is there then we are still seeing ourselves as divided. “Me” and them. 

Edited September 9, 2018 by Jack River

[Jack River]

4 minutes ago, Ingit said:

THen what did you do next !

Divided observation will always make this conflict. I had to start by identifying this divided movement. Understand divided movement/fragmentation in “myself”. 

Edited September 9, 2018 by Jack River

[Ingit]

@Jack River I didnt get it can you explain it! sorry 

[Jack River]

1 minute ago, Ingit said:

@Jack River I didnt get it can you explain it! sorry 

It’s ok dude. Is the observer different from what’s oberved?

[Ingit]

1 minute ago, Jack River said:

It’s ok dude. Is the observer different from what’s oberved?

Im having some problem grasping it,,,, THe observer is me but the thing im observing is not the true thing or it is moving in my field,,,so cant we say that it is different? ???  what you say?

[Jack River]

Just now, Ingit said:

Im having some problem grasping it,,,, THe observer is me but the thing im observing is not the true thing or it is moving in my field,,,so cant we say that it is different? ???  what you say?

It seems very different fosho. I had to go into this. It was difficult to see. 

[Jack River]

When I would act as if I was seperate from fear i would avoid the fact/fear and escape to non-fear  ..psychological time. 

Edited September 9, 2018 by Jack River

[Jack River]

If I see that there is only fear, then who Is in battle to escape to non-fear. Takes two to tango. ????. Tango meaning to conflict. 

Edited September 9, 2018 by Jack River

[Ingit]

5 minutes ago, Jack River said:

When I would act as if I was seperate from fear i would avoid the fact/fear and escape to non-fear  ..psychological time. 

If I am not seperate from fear, if I say IM the fear.......isnt I identifying myself with fear....which causes more suffering ?????

[Jack River]

3 minutes ago, Ingit said:

f I am not seperate from fear, if I say IM the fear

Thought can imitate whatever it wants. It imitates it’s idea of non-fear, non greed. But do you have to identify as fear? Fear is already there. It’s what makes this impulse to identify. But you have to see it. 

Edited September 9, 2018 by Jack River

[Jack River]

Sh** is dope dude. You get ahold of this and you’re golden brah. 

Edited September 9, 2018 by Jack River