Is the pursuit of enlightenment escapism?

[Nahm]

Of course not. You are already enlightened, and thinking in an attempting to escape it. You’ll never escape because there is nothing to escape. It’s fruitless to try. Just stop, and take a look at yourself. I know it’s terrifying, but find out why. Sidenote, fuku too.

[Mu_]

6 hours ago, Misagh said:

"Is the pursuit of enlightenment escapism?"

No. This is an argument the ego produces to defend its position once it begins to realizes how shaky it is. All it's really doing is trying to convince itself that it is useful. That without it, this tough character that is able to withstand the injustice of (what it thinks is a) mechanical world, all hell would break loose.

Any form or pursuit, even the so called path one thinks their to enlightenment ones ego can become very comfy in and said person can just become a convinced prideful expression of a being judging others from their position of awakening.  Theres two sides to this coin.

[Faceless]

6 minutes ago, Mu_ said:

Theres two sides to this coin.

Indeed this is the recurring movement pattern of the self.

Both sides of the coin being positive & negative movement of the i.

Fear in pursuit of something in time, there inevitably follows this judgment and pride. Pride and judgement one and the same movement of fear in resistance to itself as the fact. 

 

[Faceless]

Pursuit born of action-reaction. 

Can there be freedom without this conditioned response of action-reaction first? 

Edited September 10, 2018 by Faceless

[Joseph Maynor]

3 hours ago, Nahm said:

Of course not. You are already enlightened, and thinking in an attempting to escape it. You’ll never escape because there is nothing to escape. It’s fruitless to try. Just stop, and take a look at yourself. I know it’s terrifying, but find out why. Sidenote, fuku too.

Haha.  You caught it.  I missed it.

Edited September 10, 2018 by Joseph Maynor

[Nahm]

@Joseph Maynor ? “Returning”members pick spiteful code names. Just a theory I have going. 

[Fuku]

I really should change my online name on english speaking forums

福 (fuku): luck; fortune

Also a diminutive of fukurou which means owl in japanese.

(other than that thanks everyone for the opinions, not answering much right nowcause I dont hav anything smart to add, but there's a lot interesting things that make me reconsider.

Edited September 11, 2018 by Fuku

[yawning_]

9 hours ago, Fuku said:

not answering much right now

great! keep steady with questioning

 

人間万事塞翁が馬 [all human affairs are like saiou's horse (one's fortune or luck is unpredictable and ever-changing)]

 

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