Best Practices For Discussing This Experience With Un-enlightened?

[NoOne]

My wife is about to kill me because I am so full of questions and want to talk to her about my new perspective.  I'm getting some very angry egoic responses from her, and I'm mildly concerned that she may kick me out or something.  I realize that I have to now take my new perspective and use it to get a job and make some progress in our life (we are more or less living in poverty at this point).  I'm thinking the best thing might be to show her how much this experience is going to positively impact our lives, but she thinks I am stark-raving mad and experiencing a "manic episode".  I feel sadness when I think about this because I want her to come with me on this journey, but I am not going back.  Has anyone else lived through this who could give me some advice on how to deal with my family?  My daughter, incidentally, thinks this is the best thing that ever happened, because now when i spend time with her, I am REALLY spending time with her and helping her explore her own ideas.  This is of course creating more tension with my wife who believes I have been brain-washed or something.

[Ajax]

17 minutes ago, NoOne said:

I'm thinking the best thing might be to show her how much this experience is going to positively impact our lives,

 That is right.

 

 

First, use terms that she can understand in the context that she can relate to. Secondly, talk is cheap. I don't talk to my wife about 99% of my discoveries because they are just theories until I can put them into practice.  The few things that I do talk to her about are valuable because I have been using them and have been testing and refining it for awhile. It is one thing to suggest specific tools to improve one's current situation it is another to discuss ego, duality and whatever else...

Edited March 26, 2016 by Ajax

[WelcometoReality]

@NoOne Spare them and yourself the trouble. They will become curious about it once they see the positive impact it has on your life but let them take that initiative.

[NoOne]

1 minute ago, Ajax said:

 That is right.

 

 

First, use terms that she can understand in the context that she can relate to. Secondly, talk is cheap. I don't talk to my wife about 99% of by discoveries because they are just theories until I can put them into practice.  The few things that I do talk to her about are valuable because I have been using them and have been testing and refining it for awhile. It is one thing to suggest specific tools to improve one's current situation it is another to discuss ego, duality and whatever else...

Talk is a useful tool though.  I find I feel sad when I think that I cannot share this with her.  What is this sadness?  It's my ego trying to impose my vision of how life should be on my wife,   Sadness and pain are all connected to us wanting something that we can't have.  So, our sense of free will runs into a brick wall when we try to impose order over the universe that has its own ideas and it hurts us.  So, I'm told the ultimate truth is we have no free will, but surely we have some choice of how to exist.  Every second is a new choice, but some choices result in pain.  We're like rats in a maze....

[NoOne]

6 minutes ago, Socrates said:

@NoOne I get it.  They want you to be there for them.  Egoic clinging.  Die, kill your ego, let her wrath become all consuming.

I don't want her to be hurt though.  I don't want her to have to suffer any more.  She has suffered a lot putting up with me as I figured this out.  I know my desires are my own and ultimately, she has to see this for herself, but really, how possible is it?

Seriously, how rare is it for people to get this concept, to just be able to self-actualize--not necessarily to uncover the deeper truths, but to get to a place where they can examine them from this place of peace and joy?

[Ajax]

Remember, a Black-belt in Karate is a mastery of the basics.  Work to master the basics and share the basics. People generally want practical solutions to improve their life.  Work the common ground... An actualized life is a mastery of the basics so that they can move to something else. That is why Leo spends so much time explaining Matrix-related topics.

[WelcometoReality]

@NoOne

1 minute ago, NoOne said:

I don't want her to be hurt though.  I don't want her to have to suffer any more.  She has suffered a lot putting up with me as I figured this out.  I know my desires are my own and ultimately, she has to see this for herself, but really, how possible is it?

Seriously, how rare is it for people to get this concept, to just be able to self-actualize--not necessarily to uncover the deeper truths, but to get to a place where they can examine them from this place of peace and joy?

I get what you're saying. How can we help people when we have realized this. This is the part of the journey that we can refine forever. This is why there is no end to the enlightenment journey. There is no one solution. I can only think back to when I was in complete suffering, would I have been open to this? Definetly not. I was totally engulfed with feeling sorry for myself and distracting myself to not feel anything. Complete survival mode.

[NoOne]

I appreciate the input.  You've all given me some valuable insights.  Do you guys know other actualized people in life?  Do you spend time with them?  Is there a community or something, and how do you get involved?  I'm imagining that there have been multiple communities throughout history, and that they all turn into tradition and dogma.  I keep thinking about everything i have read in my life that leads to this truth, and it has been there this whole time and I just want to share it with everyone around me.  I want their suffering to end too.